As have the palestines, from their perspective....

some figures for you. In the last year:

200 Israelis dead
600 Palestinians dead

Interpret that however you like.

will


-----Original Message-----
From: Fleischer, Beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 03 December 2001 18:43
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Massive blasts rock Central Jerusalem :(


Quite frankly, I think the hatred on the part of the israelis is granted at
this point.  Since 1948 they have been attacked and attacked and
attacked......

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Swain [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:14 AM
> To:   CF-Community
> Subject:      RE: Massive blasts rock Central Jerusalem :(
>
> I see a lot of hatred on all sides in this issue, not just the Arabs
> hating
> the Jews. Also, I don't see what the realistic qualification for 'winning'
> would be. There will still be parties on either side that feel aggrieved.
> I
> think 'politics' is the only way out of this, some kind of compromise that
> all sides can be acceptably happy about. I don't know how likely that is
> at
> any time in the near to medium future.
>
> will
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 03 December 2001 18:06
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Massive blasts rock Central Jerusalem :(
>
>
> Sorry I didn't see this earlier...quite juicy :) I'm not a white
> supremacist
> at all, just to clear that up real quick.
>
> In my strange view of the world, I see the Arabs hating the Jews, and I
> really dont see any real end to it. The reasons for the hate go beyond
> politics, so a viable political solution is not in the cards. Ruling out
> compromise ( compromise being the art of politics), the only way that
> there
> will be an end to the violence is for one side to have their way, or in
> other words...Win the war. Since I have a lot of opinions, I like to take
> sides in any conflict. The side I take I rationalize in my own twisted
> ways,
> and in the Arab Vs Israeli conflict, I take sides with Israel for reasons
> I
> have already mentioned.
>
> However, I do feel quite superior to those Palestinians who danced on Sept
> 11th. I think the world would be a better place without them. No American
> ever danced when a Palestinian died.
>
> jon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Benjamin Falloon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 3:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Massive blasts rock Central Jerusalem :(
>
>
> > Jon,
> >
> > You sound awfully like a white supremacist...
> >
> > You advocate the genocide of the Indians... I assume (given your
> attitude)
> > you believe enslaving  and importing Africans was also a good idea. Good
> for
> > the economy I'll bet... to increasing 'American' [read: white male]
> power.
> >
> > And now you advocate Jewish Israelis wipe out the Arabs. Another people
> of
> > color.
> > You mentioned ignorance in your previous post. I think you well and
> truly
> > fit the bill and perhaps it's people with your attitude that are really
> > responsible for the "pain and misery in our world" to use your words.
> >
> > Benjamin
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 5:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: Massive blasts rock Central Jerusalem :(
> >
> >
> > > Which country is the most powerful nation in the world? America.
> > > If we had let the Indian's survive or let them stay in the land we
> > > occupied, like the Israelis let the "Palestinians" stay in 68 after
> they
> > > took over the occupied territories (another analogy), then we would be
> > > fighting Indian terrorists right now.
> > > The winners write the history books, not the compromisers. Every
> single
> > > American today is an American because we killed all of the Indians.
> Any
> > > American who thinks we should not have done it really can leave for
> all
> > > I care. I'm sure there is another most powerful nation in the world
> > > somewhere for them.
> > >
> > > The ironic thing is that if America had existed back in the 1700's and
> > > another country tried to invade the Indians homeland, we would
> probably
> > > send in troops and defend the Indians homeland so we could feel good
> > > about ourselves. That is America's hypocrrisy, the people want to feel
> > > good about themselves. They are probably the same ones who are ashamed
> > > of America's history too. I'm more ashamed of these people than of
> what
> > > we did to the Indians. These people are unintelligent. Stupidity has
> > > caused more pain and misery in our world than anything else throughout
> > > history.
> > >
> > > If Israel had taken the American example to heart they would control
> > > most of the Middle East by now, they are powerful enough. Is that a
> good
> > > thing? I dont know, but there would be less Islamic militants to drive
> > > planes into our buildings, and no Palestinians dancing in the streets
> > > when Americans are killed. Did you want to dance in the streets with
> > > them? I assume not, then why are you so supportive of them?
> > > They would be happy to kill every single Israeli and American, yet you
> > > side with them, because you want to take the higher road and think
> > > yourself above that kind of violence. Seems hypocritical to me.
> > >
> > > jon
> > > Angel Stewart wrote:
> > >
> > > >You SHOULD have kicked the Indians' asses?
> > > >
> > > >Right..kill the fucking indigineous people in an area so you can take
> > > >over their land and eradicate their way of life completely after
> landing
> > > >on THEIR shores. That's A-Ok.
> > > >
> > > >If that is what the Arabs are to Israel then go fucking Arabs.
> > > >
> > > >That's probably the most stupid and inaccurate analogy I've ever seen
> of
> > > >the two sides.
> > > >
> > > >-Gel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 8:40 PM
> > > >To: CF-Community
> > > >Subject: Re: Massive blasts rock Central Jerusalem :(
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I just love arguments to much :) Please don't take my postings as
> > > >attacks. I was simply saying that if they can't have peace for seven
> > > >days, then a false peace is not really worth wasting any effort on.
> > > >
> > > >To further comment on my last post though, imo the Arabs are to
> Israel,
> > > >is like the Indians were to the first Americans. They should have
> kicked
> > > >the Arab's butt's a long time ago like we did the Indians. America
> was
> > > >founded by Puritans from England, Israel was founded by Jews from
> > > >England. Americans have much in common with Israel...
> > > >
> > > >jon
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>

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