nice diversion of the issue at hand. You're tryign to change the subject here.

In this case it does not matter who whines in the Democratic party or
in the CIA. That does not result in the possible loss of lives. Outing
an under CIA operative does. Outing one for purely vindictive
political purposes is reprehensible. It is corruption pure and simple.
What's next ordering hits on journalists who piss off Bush?

On 7/22/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But that's exactly my point. The Dems and the whiners at the CIA have plenty 
> to complain about when a leak comes from the White House, but when the leak 
> comes from the CIA itself, they say nothing. What has been going on at the 
> CIA for four years is a concerted campaign of leaks intended to damage the 
> White House and subvert the democratic process (whereby elected officials, 
> not spooks and analyst wonks at Langley, determine foreign policy).
> 
> Apparently someone in the White House got fed up with the leaks, they found 
> something legitimately wrong with Wilson's story, i.e. nepotism by Valerie 
> Wilson and false public statements by Joe Wilson, and they decided to stick 
> it to both the Wilsons and the CIA. Personally, I believe that if a crime was 
> committed, the person responsible should be charged and fired. But how to 
> figure out who the culprit is? The President isn't going to fire someone just 
> because the Dems want him fired. He will want some proof of criminal 
> wrongdoing.
> 
> I bet the only two people on the planet who know the source of the leak are 
> Judith Miller and the leaker. I don't think Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, Matt 
> Cooper, or Bob Novak have any idea who leaked the story. I suspect that the 
> culprit leaked it to Miller, who checked with someone else at the White House 
> (maybe Libby), and I think she also shared the story with Novak and Cooper, 
> perhaps indirectly, but there you have it. All of which is why Miller is 
> sitting in jail on contempt charges and Rove, Libby, Cooper and Novak are 
> enjoying the summer in Washington, DC.
> 
> So before you jump all over the President for condoning wrongdoing, let's 
> take a step back and see if anyone can figure out:
> 
> 1. whether there was in fact a crime committed
> 2. who committed it
> 
> I think that's what the President has been waiting for all along.
> 
> >Gruss wrote:
> > 2.) We're talking about a President who is endorsing not only
> > unauthorized leaks to the press by random members of his staff, but
> > the outing of undercover CIA officers.
> >
> > How can anyone possibly defend
> that?
> 
> 

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