Heinlein never addressed those issues. The society that the focus of Starship Troopers originated in a post war village controlled by veterans who banded together to stop looters.
larry On 7/28/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That works for me. There really ought to be a level of governmental > responsibility as a citizen. Of course, I have no idea what being a > non-citizen means. Does it mean that you can't own land? Do you have no > Constitutional rights? Are you ineligible for welfare? I think that > mandatory government service would straighten out a lot of people who would > otherwise be detrimental to society. > > > Matthew Small > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:13 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Why CIA Permantly Hurt By Plame Leak > > In the book it wasn't necessarily military service. To get the vote > and its attendent responibility you had to serve a term of government > service. That could be almost anything from scraping manure from the > elephant stalls at the local zoo, to shuffling papers in an office to > getting shot at by foreign types who object to the most recent trade > policies. > > The critical factor is that the person is willing to serve a 5 year > term in service to the country. > > larry > > On 7/28/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is referring to Starship Troopers, right? How exactly did things > work > > in that book? What does "Citizienship" convey to the citizen that a > > non-citizen does not get? > > > > > > Matthew Small > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:45 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Why CIA Permantly Hurt By Plame Leak > > > > Didn't you read the other thread Sam. > > > > The new age for the army reserves is up to 45. > > > > Oh, and I am huge Heinlein fan. You can have all the rights, other than > > voting, in my eyes. God that would be a kewl government :) > > > > Sam wrote: > > > Look I appreciate your volunteering and everyone else that's served, > > > but I'm getting a little sick and tired of people telling me if you > > > didn't serve you can't discuss war. It's bullshit. Might as well burn > > > all the history books. > > > > > > > > > http://www.military.com/Recruiting/Content/0,13898,rec_step02_eligibility,,0 > > 0.html > > > > > > In 1990 I was 29. Too old to join the Air force, still might get my > > > pilots license though. > > > > > > > > > On 7/27/05, William Bowen wrote: > > > > > >>>I don't know about "we" but I think Will supported him :) > > >> > > >>Hey Sam, > > >> > > >>My family (multiple members of it) gets put in harms' way when the > > >>President (Clinton, both Bushes any president) decides to put troops > > >>on the ground or bombs in the sky. > > >> > > >>So thanks very much for your assumption, but you are (as with many > > >>things) mistaken, I cannot in good conscience support any decision > > >>that risks the life of my, or anyone elses, loved ones. That being > > >>said, I realize that they, and I at one time, made the decision to > > >>volunteer for service and that does mean that when they say go, you > > >>go. It does not mean I have to support the decision to send them. > > >> > > >>You have stated many times on this list that you support the actions > > >>of our current President and his decisions to go to war, yet when > > >>challenged to sign yourself up for action, you repeated have > > >>begged-off with "I'm too old to serve." IIRC you're 44, that means you > > >>were of optimal age to volunteer during Desert Storm. Did you? > > >> > > >>Hey Sam, if you're a conscientious objector there's no problem, but I > > >>suspect from your posts that you are not, now or then. > > >> > > >>And hey Sam, FWIW, though I doubt you care, my uncle, who is > > >>officially inactive (for 4+ years) from the Reserves, is 50 years old > > >>and recently got a recall notice and orders to report for a physical. > > >> > > >>If he's fit, he's going to get assigned to a post his MOS qualifies > > >>him for. Bradley mechanic. hrmmm... and where do they need the most > > >>mechanics? > > >> > > >>-- > > >>will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:166885 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
