You just can't vote. That's the only difference. You have no say in government.
Matthew Small wrote: > That works for me. There really ought to be a level of governmental > responsibility as a citizen. Of course, I have no idea what being a > non-citizen means. Does it mean that you can't own land? Do you have no > Constitutional rights? Are you ineligible for welfare? I think that > mandatory government service would straighten out a lot of people who would > otherwise be detrimental to society. > > > Matthew Small > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:13 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Why CIA Permantly Hurt By Plame Leak > > In the book it wasn't necessarily military service. To get the vote > and its attendent responibility you had to serve a term of government > service. That could be almost anything from scraping manure from the > elephant stalls at the local zoo, to shuffling papers in an office to > getting shot at by foreign types who object to the most recent trade > policies. > > The critical factor is that the person is willing to serve a 5 year > term in service to the country. > > larry > > On 7/28/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>This is referring to Starship Troopers, right? How exactly did things > > work > >>in that book? What does "Citizienship" convey to the citizen that a >>non-citizen does not get? >> >> >>Matthew Small >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:45 PM >>To: CF-Community >>Subject: Re: Why CIA Permantly Hurt By Plame Leak >> >>Didn't you read the other thread Sam. >> >>The new age for the army reserves is up to 45. >> >>Oh, and I am huge Heinlein fan. You can have all the rights, other than >>voting, in my eyes. God that would be a kewl government :) >> >>Sam wrote: >> >>>Look I appreciate your volunteering and everyone else that's served, >>>but I'm getting a little sick and tired of people telling me if you >>>didn't serve you can't discuss war. It's bullshit. Might as well burn >>>all the history books. >>> >>> >> > http://www.military.com/Recruiting/Content/0,13898,rec_step02_eligibility,,0 > >>0.html >> >>>In 1990 I was 29. Too old to join the Air force, still might get my >>>pilots license though. >>> >>> >>>On 7/27/05, William Bowen wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>I don't know about "we" but I think Will supported him :) >>>> >>>>Hey Sam, >>>> >>>>My family (multiple members of it) gets put in harms' way when the >>>>President (Clinton, both Bushes any president) decides to put troops >>>>on the ground or bombs in the sky. >>>> >>>>So thanks very much for your assumption, but you are (as with many >>>>things) mistaken, I cannot in good conscience support any decision >>>>that risks the life of my, or anyone elses, loved ones. That being >>>>said, I realize that they, and I at one time, made the decision to >>>>volunteer for service and that does mean that when they say go, you >>>>go. It does not mean I have to support the decision to send them. >>>> >>>>You have stated many times on this list that you support the actions >>>>of our current President and his decisions to go to war, yet when >>>>challenged to sign yourself up for action, you repeated have >>>>begged-off with "I'm too old to serve." IIRC you're 44, that means you >>>>were of optimal age to volunteer during Desert Storm. Did you? >>>> >>>>Hey Sam, if you're a conscientious objector there's no problem, but I >>>>suspect from your posts that you are not, now or then. >>>> >>>>And hey Sam, FWIW, though I doubt you care, my uncle, who is >>>>officially inactive (for 4+ years) from the Reserves, is 50 years old >>>>and recently got a recall notice and orders to report for a physical. >>>> >>>>If he's fit, he's going to get assigned to a post his MOS qualifies >>>>him for. Bradley mechanic. hrmmm... and where do they need the most >>>>mechanics? >>>> >>>>-- >>>>will >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:166891 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
