> Stop trying to argue against a specific example
> with a generality. (Or not.)

> I just thought it was an interesting story that
> happened to come about during this thread about
> nuclear families vs communal groups.

> Didn't mean to imply that you generality was
> wrong, just that here was an example of not
> just an extended family but an entire close-knit
> community that knowingly supported sexual abuse
> of minors, up to and including the mayor and
> police departments.

Sorry I snapped... Yeah, it happens... like that anti-gay preacher in
the midwest... don't remember his name offhand, the "god hates fags"
guy... but I remember reading an article about him that said his
congregation mostly consisted of his own family... and of course, they
all contribute to activities like picketing in front of any business
that dares to hire a gay person and would probably engage in hate
crimes if they could get away with it.

> (BTW, the father went to prison for 5 years
> for the abuse of 20+ of his daughters, because
> the outside legal system came in and took over
> in this case)

Wow... nice short sentence... <sigh>...

I remember in the 80's seeing something on TV about a shrink who was
supposedly charged with hiring several men to rape one of his male
patients as an experiment. There's certainly no drought of stories
about authority figures abusing people...

> And I would agree with you on the whole
> extended family (both related and unrelated)
> approach. I just (personally) would not
> live under the same roof. I like my personal
> space too much. I think small clustered
> buildings with common areas (living, dining,
> kitchen) are much better suited to this type
> of situation, including shared outdoor
> living areas.

I love the idea of having a single roof... It's really comforting to
me to think that I could pass by 6 of my family members on my way to
get a glass of water at night, or that if any of them had a problem at
2am (not that it's very likely) that they would know that they could
just walk down the hall and wake me up to talk about it. To me if I
need "personal space" I can just close the door or take a walk.

> There are more and more people moving
> towards this approach. I saw a lot of
> it out west (Oregon and Nevada) where
> new neighborhoods were actively promoting
> it. Also here in New England there are
> a number of famlies I know personally
> that live this way to varying degrees.
> (including mine)

> I have also seen a number of shows on
> cable (travel channel, discovery,
> history channel, CNN) that show this
> as a growing trend.

I've heard about it... Seen a few examples -- not in person, but I've
seen the floor plans and such. I definately think they're a good idea.
One of the floor plans for this was actually a forming community in
Dallas that I was interested in potentially so I could be near my
kids. But they didn't have the land or even the finances to buy the
land yet -- they just had a list of people and a set of architectural
diagrams because one of them was an architect.


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