mmm, was kind of out of it yesterday and didn't realize we were
onlist. Around here Coyote is yes, a trickster, but more than that.
The Laguna teacher I had for Native American Philosophy told me that
was what they told white people, but he may well have been pulling my
leg. He thought I was a bit too serious.

This is the closest I could find to the understanding I came to have of Coyote. 

http://www.dfanning.com/documents/coyote.html

There are also hundreds of trickster stories. Haven't had time to look
through your list yet, but thank you for posting them :) most, like
Aesop's tales, are a kind of parable. I'd like to add the following:

http://www.indians.org/welker/coyote.htm

One of the big things in Native American Studies is recognizing the
genuinely native american sources.

Dana


On 8/5/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I musta missed this one.
> 
> There are two different traditions I have read relating to Coyote.
> In some, he is a respected elder who helped create the world (the Crow
> for example)
> In others (mostly southwest US), he is a trickster. (Northwest tribes
> had Raven and Eastern Woodland tribes had Rabbit that served the same
> purpose)
> 
> Sounds like you want the trickster.
> Who is he:
> http://members.cox.net/academia/coyote.html
> http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761580498_4/Native_American_Religions.html
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickster
> http://www.phoenixarises.com/phoenix/legends/thunder.htm (pretty good
> explanation of thunderbird, heyoka, sacred clowns, iktomi and
> tricksters)
> http://www.gods-heros-myth.com/northgods.html
> http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/tales/inktomi/Ant.htm
> 
> Some Trickster fables/stories:
> How Coyote stole fire (Sioux) - http://www.darsie.net/talesofwonder/hcsf.html
> Coyote's Salmon (Sanpoil) - http://www.indians.org/welker/coyotesa.htm
> A Breath of Coyote (Nishnaabe) -
> http://www.faculty.de.gcsu.edu/~mmagouli/trickster.htm
> Coyote kills a giant (Navajo)  -
> http://eserver.org/fiction/coyote-and-the-giant.txt
> Iktomi and the coyote -
> http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=ZitLege.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=4&division=div1
> How Squire Coyote Brought Fire to the Cahrocs -
> http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/browse-mixed-new?id=CheCoyo&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public
> Coyote Helps Create Man (Navajo) -
> http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Legends/Coyote_Helps_Create_Man-Navajo.html
> Bat and Coyote (Nez Perce) -
> http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Legends/Bat_And_Coyote-NezPerce.html
> Coyote And Porcupine (Nez Perce) -
> http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Legends/CoyoteAndPorcupine-NezPerce.html
> Coyote And The Mallard Ducks (Nez Perce) -
> http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Legends/Coyote-And-The-Mallard-Ducks-NezPerce.html
> A Coyote Story (Ojibwa) -
> http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Legends/A_Coyote_Story-Ojibwa.html
> Coyote And The Two Frog Women (Alsea) -
> http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Legends/Coyote-And-The-Two-Frog-Women-Alsea.html
> 
> And don't forget the roadrunner cartoons and Wile E Coyote.
> 
> 
> On 8/5/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I can probably find you some. Give me a couple days -- been in the
> > hospital with an infected catscratch. Still one-handed and taking lots
> > and lots of antibiotics and painkillers.
> >
> > Sacred Clowns are a Hopi notion, and you could do far worse on the
> > topic than Tony Hillerman's novel Sacred Clowns. I think but am not
> > totally sure that these spirits are similar to Coyote in the Navaho
> > and Apache worlds, other Native American mythologies too I believe.
> >
> > Dana
> >
> > On 8/1/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hey Dana,
> > >
> > > Do you have any url's to references for the Coyote fables?
> > >
> > > Re: "hey, kinda like Coyote. He is more than Loki; he is foolish man
> > > who keeps trying :) I have always been fascinated by the sacred
> > > clowns, ever since I heard of them."
> > >
> > > I know they're an oral tradition -- or they were ... but if you've got
> > > any sources, I'd be appreciative. :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > s. isaac dealey   954.522.6080
> > > new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
> > >
> > > add features without fixtures with
> > > the onTap open source framework
> > >
> > > http://www.fusiontap.com
> > > http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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