And I am sure you see no problem with Outkast's Grammy performance? You're oversimplifying the issue again.
Dana On 8/8/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The attitude that because person X is not from racial group Y and > therefore is not qualified to comment etc is about as racist as a KKK > member burning a cross or the old Jim Crow law BS. There is no > difference between that attitude and stopping a native from going to > college because, well you know they're Indian. > > Its disgusting. To turn things around if it had been a black or an > native being forbidden to comment or write on non native culture > because of their ethnic or racial background there would be a > firestorm over it. Its racism pure and simple. > > larry > > On 8/8/05, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I encountered a similar attitude when studing African art history and > > culture. I was often looked down upon as a white chick - how could I > > possibly get it. This was particularly prevelant among the African > > American students. Ironically, when I went to Africa with a racially > > diverse group, one of the things I was asked was, "so, how come Sue is > > more brown than you?" Sue (not her real name) was aghast and said, > > "Because I'm African American." They laughed and said, "no you're > > oyinbo." (Oyinbo literally means "skin peeled away - but it's the > > general term for all foreigners.) There was no connection felt by the > > Africans to the African Americans - much to the great dismay of the > > African Americans on the trip. > > > > > > On 8/7/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > it's an interesting point of view. He made me redo several papers > > > because I cited non-Native writers. His reasoning: if we are talking > > > about what it means to be Native American, what does a white man know? > > > Since there are lots of blond blue-eyed wannabes in Santa Fe I sort of > > > see his point. On the other hand, he himself was half Lebanese and > > > this point of view invalidates his own father's opinion, a man who > > > spent a lifetime in Laguna. > > > > > > I suspect that this is one of those issues where context is everything > > > -- someone already familiar with the culture woud spot a tall tale > > > told to an anthropologist for example. > > > > > > It's an area of controversy in the field, one the one hand effusive > > > websites praising "Indian wisdom" of no specific origin, on the other > > > a kind of political correctness that says you aren't entitled to speak > > > out unless you're a government-certified indian. > > > > > > That's where the remark comes from. > > > > > > On 8/6/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 8/6/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > One of the big things in Native American Studies is recognizing the > > > > > genuinely native american sources. > > > > > > > > This is an interesting comment. On the one hand, we do want to > > > > understand the culture from authoritative sources because our own > > > > understanding will be colored by our differing paradigms. However, > > > > there's something interesting in the life of oral traditions. The > > > > changes in the retelling that give them their color and character > > > > based on the teller's memory and capacity to evoke the ideas they > > > > remember. > > > > > > > > -Kevin > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:168486 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
