Ok Cool.
I'm not going to argue and belabour this point any more.

On 8/11/05, Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not true - some things are done in charity and others are not.  Same as with 
> individuals.  I'm walking down a street and see that someone on the street is 
> begging so I take them down the street and buy them breakfast...this is pure 
> charity.  I walk down the street and see someone on the street begging so I 
> give them a few dollars in the hope that they'll go somewhere else to spend 
> the money and away from my doorstep.  This is giving money in the hope of 
> gaining something for myself.  People do it and governments do it

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