This guy was on Savage last night, very interesting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/17/politics/17intel.html?ei=5065&en=2aeff500108cbed3&ex=1124942400&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

Officer Says Military Blocked Sharing of Files on Terrorists
By PHILIP SHENON
WASHINGTON, Aug. 16 - A military intelligence team repeatedly
contacted the F.B.I. in 2000 to warn about the existence of an
American-based terrorist cell that included the ringleader of the
Sept. 11 attacks, according to a veteran Army intelligence officer who
said he had now decided to risk his career by discussing the
information publicly.

The officer, Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, said military lawyers later
blocked the team from sharing any of its information with the bureau.

Colonel Shaffer said in an interview on Monday night that the small,
highly classified intelligence program, known as Able Danger, had
identified the terrorist ringleader, Mohamed Atta, and three other
future hijackers by name by mid-2000, and tried to arrange a meeting
that summer with agents of the Washington field office of the Federal
Bureau of Investigation to share its information.

But he said military lawyers forced members of the intelligence
program to cancel three scheduled meetings with the F.B.I. at the last
minute, which left the bureau without information that Colonel Shaffer
said might have led to Mr. Atta and the other terrorists while the
Sept. 11 attacks were still being planned.

"I was at the point of near insubordination over the fact that this
was something important, that this was something that should have been
pursued," Colonel Shaffer said of his efforts to get the evidence from
the intelligence program to the F.B.I. in 2000 and early 2001.

He said he learned later that lawyers associated with the Special
Operations Command of the Defense Department had canceled the F.B.I.
meetings because they feared controversy if Able Danger was portrayed
as a military operation that had violated the privacy of civilians who
were legally in the United States.

"It was because of the chain of command saying we're not going to pass
on information - if something goes wrong, we'll get blamed," he said.

The Defense Department did not dispute the account from Colonel
Shaffer, a 42-year-old native of Kansas City, Mo., who is the first
military officer associated with the program to acknowledge his role
publicly.

At the same time, the department said in a statement that it was
"working to gain more clarity on this issue" and that "it's too early
to comment on findings related to the program identified as Able
Danger." The F.B.I. referred calls about Colonel Shaffer to the
Pentagon.

The account from Colonel Shaffer, a reservist who is also working part
time for the Pentagon, corroborates much of the information that the
Sept. 11 commission has acknowledged it received about Able Danger
last July from a Navy captain who was also involved with the program
but whose name has not been made public. In a statement issued last
week, the leaders of the commission said the panel had concluded that
the intelligence program "did not turn out to be historically
significant."

The statement said that while the commission did learn about Able
Danger in 2003 and immediately requested Pentagon files about it, none
of the documents turned over by the Defense Department referred to Mr.
Atta or any of the other hijackers.

Colonel Shaffer said that his role in Able Danger was as liaison with
the Defense Intelligence Agency in Washington, and that he was not an
intelligence analyst. The interview with Colonel Shaffer on Monday was
arranged for The New York Times and Fox News by Representative Curt
Weldon, the Pennsylvania Republican who is vice chairman of the House
Armed Services Committee and a champion of data-mining programs like
Able Danger.

Colonel Shaffer's lawyer, Mark Zaid, said in an interview that he was
concerned that Colonel Shaffer was facing retaliation from the Defense
Department, first for having talked to the Sept. 11 commission staff
in October 2003 and now for talking with news organizations.

Mr. Zaid said that Colonel Shaffer's security clearance was suspended
last year because of what the lawyer said were a series of "petty
allegations" involving $67 in personal charges on a military
cellphone. He said that despite the disciplinary action, Colonel
Shaffer had been promoted this year from major.

Colonel Shaffer said he had decided to allow his name to be used in
part because of his frustration with the statement issued last week by
the commission leaders, Thomas H. Kean and Lee H. Hamilton.

The commission said in its final report last year that American
intelligence agencies had not identified Mr. Atta as a terrorist
before Sept. 11, 2001, when he flew an American Airlines jet into one
of the World Trade Center towers in New York.

A commission spokesman did not return repeated phone calls on Tuesday
for comment. A Democratic member of the commission, Richard
Ben-Veniste, the former Watergate prosecutor, said in an interview on
Tuesday that while he could not judge the credibility of the
information from Colonel Shaffer and others, the Pentagon needed to
"provide a clear and comprehensive explanation regarding what
information it had in its possession regarding Mr. Atta."

"And if these assertions are credible," Mr. Ben-Veniste continued,
"the Pentagon would need to explain why it was that the 9/11
commissioners were not provided this information despite requests for
all information regarding Able Danger."

Colonel Shaffer said he had provided information about Able Danger and
its identification of Mr. Atta in a private meeting in October 2003
with members of the Sept. 11 commission staff when they visited
Afghanistan, where he was then serving. Commission members have
disputed that, saying that they do not recall hearing Mr. Atta's name
during the briefing and that the name did not appear in documents
about Able Danger that were later turned over by the Pentagon.

"I would implore the 9/11 commission to support a follow-on
investigation to ascertain what the real truth is," Colonel Shaffer
said in the interview this week. "I do believe the 9/11 commission
should have done that job: figuring out what went wrong with Able
Danger."

"This was a good news story because, before 9/11, you had an element
of the military - our unit - which was actually out looking for Al
Qaeda," he continued. "I can't believe the 9/11 commission would
somehow believe that the historical value was not relevant."

Colonel Shaffer said that because he was not an intelligence analyst,
he was not involved in the details of the procedures used in Able
Danger to glean information from terrorist databases, nor was he aware
of which databases had supplied the information that might have led to
the name of Mr. Atta or other terrorists so long before the Sept. 11
attacks.

But he said he did know that Able Danger had made

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