I still see no mention of water being dropped. Nor anything about buses 
going around before the flood trying to evacuate people, was that you 
talking about that? Quick reality check: where do you get your news? 
 I do see that some food has made it to the convention center, finally. 

Dana

 On 9/2/05, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Friday afternoon and a big ass convoy of supplies and troops made it to 
> the
> people at the convention center and most of the dome was evacuated at this
> point plus shortly before this those thousands of people on the freeway 
> that
> the helicopters were dropping off and the bad condition people were being
> relocated with helicopters got a convoy of buses(because prior it was hard
> for the buses to even get there) to start pulling them out. Does no one
> realize the magnitude of what it takes to evacuate 10s of thousands of
> people or to find and pull them out of "rumble", each bus holds how many
> people? Plus they have been using Amtrak and some flights now that the
> airport has dried out enough to actually be used. It was estimated(as per
> their local news interview with a professor earlier today) before this 
> ever
> happened that maybe 10k people per day could be evacuated from the city if
> something like this occured yet certain seems that number was passed when 
> I
> watch the local news about amount of people bused in. Levee breaks on
> Tuesday, so what is that 72 hours to get trucks organized, get the trucks
> loaded, get the troops organized as well and get them loaded and then 
> drive
> them there and navigate the rumble to get to the destination and that
> assumes they had not done any of those things prior bet they did or it 
> would
> have been more than 72 hours. Prior to the convoy arriving helicopters 
> have
> been doing their best to drop supplies as they come in. Their number one
> priority on the first through days was rescue people from the flooded 
> areas
> and from watching the news I see an enormous amount of helicopters and 
> boats
> working on that task and the buses started I believe 48 hours later. Plus
> the government already dispatched three ships how many days ago, and
> probably back when everyone probably did not grasp the magnitude of what 
> was
> happening. Just like most people in this world, everyone wants to point a
> damn finger at someone or something specific, christ there are people 
> saying
> all day how this is racist and if all those people were more white than 
> not
> then it would have happened quicker. It is so easy to sit back and look at
> anything and think of how it could have been done better, does not matter 
> if
> it is a disaster or just someone else code on a CFM application. The 
> bigger
> the job one is looking at, usually the less of the variables they are 
> aware
> of and fully take into account.
> 
> I almost want to think that the Coast Guard is the only entity involved in
> this that has done a "great" job.
> 
> On 9/2/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > It was probably not entirely clear to anyone, the governor, the 
> president,
> > or the National Guard, just how bad things were on Monday. It's getting 
> to
> > be Friday evening. What was your excuse again? I see no particular 
> reason
> > why the president could not have made a phone call to the Pentagon after
> > the
> > news broke on Tuesday that the levees had broken.
> > Dana
> > On 9/2/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Matthew wrote:
> > > > Instead of looking just at the Pres to blame for all of it, you 
> should
> > > > research what the state government was communicating to the Federal
> > Gov
> > >
> > > I agree completely. To be clear, this was a failure of gov't on every
> > > level: city, county, state, and federal. My point is, while I can
> > > understand that maybe the Governor is hamstrung, the President isn't.
> > > He should be able to cut through all of the red tape; that's the
> > > purpose of his executive authority.
> > >
> > > As to "being him", I don't need to be him to see that the NO relief is
> > > a major fek up. If I was him, I'd use executive authority to get
> > > troops and supplies in there fast. He's not chose to do that.
> > >
> > > In defense of that decision, it may be because, in reviewing that
> > > option, his people felt the actual aid would get to people just as
> > > fast by messing with nothing. That is, yes the train started slowly,
> > > but it's almost up to speed.
> > >
> > > However, even if that's the case, he's not doing much good as a
> > > symbolic leader either. I don't hear the, "I'm bringing the full
> > > resources of the US government to bear ... blah blah blah" Instead
> > > he's going to tour and has said the effort is "insufficient". That's
> > > not reassuring when you're starving to death.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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