> Dana wrote:
> I do find the
> idea that people should be paid enough to not need government services
> rather compelling from a moral point of view

We get into philosophy here as I think the most moral thing is
capitalism as it allows each person to set their own living standard
and I believe most, not all, poor people are choosing their own living
standard.

If the 1000 people not making a "living wage" want more money then why
not do what the rest of us do and go to college, etc?

Let me pose the question a different way: do you owe anybody a living?
 Should you be forced by the gov't to pay your neighbor a living wage?
 If you shouldn't, how about your small business?  How about your
corporation?

That's why I'm asking you to pin a percentage down - how many people
do you think are poor by choice rather than because they are
physically incapable of earning more?  I think those physically
incapable of it is low, say 20% or less of those living below the
poverty line.

If that's true, why do I owe the other 80% a living?  Why should I
work hard to subsidize those unwilling too?

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