On 10/6/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sounds like that's how you break the unions, no other way to remove
> tenured teachers yet. If Prop. 74 get approved in CA that would make
> it easier to fire tenured teachers.

Teacher's unions serve a real and needed purpose in many cases. 
However, any teacher will tell you that there are bad apples at their
school that need to be removed but can't be removed because of tenure.
 Also, all of us could probably tell a story about at least one
teacher during your schooling who had absolutely no business teaching
what-so-ever.

I am all for firing bad teachers.  I'm not really sure testing is
required to measure that though, since it's so easy for us to
collectively recite the names of teachers in our past that need to be
fired.  The problem isn't identifying the bad teachers, it's being
allowed to fire them.

-Cameron

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