but what is "work" though... for some students it may be not dropping out, as I previously mentioned.
Dana On 10/7/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If the charter school students' educational performance is no > different than that of public schools then charter schools do not > work. If when factoring out parental involvement, there is no > difference from public schools, then again they do not work. That is > what the data show. Ergo they do not work. What is most commonly found > for voucher programs is that for the majority of students no gains > are found when switched to a private school, for those who do show an > increase (mainly african american students) it isn't clear whether its > a function of the school, or simply because the parents become more > involved with the kid's education, > (http://www.utahfoundation.org/pdf2/rr655.pdf). > > Myself I think the real difference is twofold, private schools can > cherry pick the students, not need to accept poor performers, disabled > students or students for whom english is a second language. Second, > most private schools require more parental involvement. We looked at > this issue in grad school for a course on causal modeling and path > analysis using the full NORC dataset (see http://norc.org).When you > accounted for parental involvement, there were no statistically > significant differences in educational performance, as measured by > standardized tests of educational achievement, between public and > private schools. > > larry > > On 10/6/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Larry wrote: > > > It it can be reliably shown that charter schools > > > and vouchers don't work > > > > If by "don't work" you mean "work well enough to be reaffirmed for the > > last 25 years in Milwaukee" then I agree. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:176462 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
