> well, here is my issue. If you are going to take the position that even
> potential life is sacred -- that the three-day-old embryo is human -- then
> what about all those unfertilized eggs? What about sperm that do not
> impregnate anyone? Masturbation would become murder.
>

Most pro lifers believe that life begins at CONCEPTION...when them little 
spermies meet up with the unfertilized eggs. They believe that potential 
life is indeed important, but not as sacred as "life".

> Clearnly that's absurd.

Which is why they don't believe it :)

> So is saying that an eight and a half month old
> fetus is not alive. If anyone needs to be convinced of the latter, Both my
> children were born through induced labor at that stage (I don't do 
> pregnancy
> well and it had reached the point where the risk to me was large and the
> risk to them very minor). No special measures were needed. Labor was
> induced, they were born.
> So there is a point in there somewhere where a person becomes alive.
>
> Dana
>

Where is that point? The 8 1/2 month fetus is the same living thing it was 7 
months ago, only bigger, with more parts. The core is the same.

So at what point is it "big enough" to be a person? When it could survive on 
it's own outside the womb? NO newborns can "survive on their own" outside 
the womb.

Maybe life begins when we first hear a heart beat? Or when we first register 
brain waves?

The point is, we seem to be saying that WE get to determine when life 
begins....and yet.....we don't seem to be able to actually answer any of the 
essential questions. 



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