> Dana  wrote:
> Gruss you know I get really tired of you putting words in my mouth.

Lucky I didn't do that then!  Notice that I said you "might say" not
you "would say".  But either way, I apologize if you took offense - I
didn't mean to put words in your mouth; it's just that's a position
you've taken in the past.

> It would be nice if we could all be knowledge workers but unless you are
> prepared to give up midnight trips to 7-11 you cannot magick away the
> presence of an underclass

This is where we disagree: you have this assumption that if we did
away with a minimum wage 7-11 would disappear.  The economy has the
ability to absorb millions of new market driven jobs for all of the
people now trapped by minimum wage.  In fact this has already happened
in the 70s and 80s when women joined the work force.

To convince me that it's a good idea to have the government messing
with the employment market, you'd have to explain the market failure
that occurs for lower skilled jobs.

And there might be for certain areas, but certainly not in any city
above 100,000 and my guess is businesses would have to self-impose a
minimum wage.

Europe is facing much the same problem with those that are pushing
away the market vs. those that aren't (From The WSJ):
-------------------------------------------------------
Europe may be stumbling into a new period of decline just at the time
when it should be building upon the most promising era in its long and
bloody history.

It is not responding well to the challenges of a rising China and
India, nor is it harnessing the factors behind its current success --
the continent-wide spread of peace, democracy and market-driven
prosperity. A epic battle has begun between those European forces that
understand globalization's requirement for dramatic change and those
holding it back.

The problem is that the recalcitrants too often have the upper hand
and are blocking progress that endangers the greatest geopolitical
achievement of the 20th century's final half: Europe's unification
after the Soviet collapse and its still-expanding realm of free
societies and markets.

Those were among Lech Walesa's most compelling warnings during a
recent stop he made in New York.

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