I guess there is a broad consensus that morals say there should be
SOME dividing point and the place of that dividing point is a matter
of local culture logic and reason?

I'd agree to that statement would you?

On 11/22/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dana wrote:
> > the same reason could be applied at 19. But since we are agreeing
> > let's quite quibbling.
> >
>
> No, no, that's a good point and, really, my point.  We can make many
> reasonable arguments about 17, 18, 19, etc.  None of them "moral" only
> reasonable.
>
> 

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