> Sam wrote:
> Damn, now Larry will tell you he's been discredited.
>

Whether it's true or not it doesn't change much.  I'm sure the marines
are killing them 20-to-1 and that's got to make you feel like you're
winning.

The problem, however, is 3 fold:

1.) What we were sold and what bought are 2 different things and continue to be.
2.) There is no criteria for success and no plan to accomplish it.
3.) There's a discrepancy between what Mr. Bush says and what the
generals say.  (See Mr. Murtha's comments or Sen John Warner's meeting
with generals)

It's clear that we don't have leaders capable of dealing with this
situation and thinking they will ever be is folly at this point.

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