> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 05 December 2005 06:19
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: fun weekend reading
> 
> If you're talking about "...making such a hash of the 
> politics." I wasn't sure what you meant so left it alone. As 
> for the WWII allies I did address it by saying, "making a 
> move that brings an end to the war doesn't negate everyone 
> else's role"
> In other words the guy that kicks the tie breaking goal won 
> the game for the team but that doesn't mean the other goals 
> meant nothing or the rest of the team was served no purpose.

So you concede the point that the article is coming from an arrogant and
flawed point of view as it reads as if America was 100% responsible for the
end of WW2. Neither you nor I agree with that.

> Our economy is soaring, doing much better than the rest of 
> the world even though Bush started with a recession. 
> Excellent job by this administration.

Your soaring economy is an illusion. It is being funded by the largest
national defecit in American history.

> Sounds like your talking about the European Union while I was 
> talking about individual states. Germany, France and England 
> all have lots of Muslim immigrants that are treated like 
> immigrants. Like you said these countries have long histories 
> and if you're new it's hard to become accepted. After all the 
> UK still has a class system in place, maybe not officially 
> but everyone knows his or her place.

Yes I'm talking about the European Union. That is where I live afterall.
Something else you should know about me, for three years I lived in a place
called Aston in Birmingham. I lived half a mile away from the Saddam Hussein
mosque. I have had a first hand view of living in a Muslim community. For
the majority in these communities, they do feel that they are second class
citizens *however* some of the things that I have witnessed tell me that
this is not entirely the fault of the indegenous peoples of the UK. The
Muslim communities are very insular and extremely racist. The tensions
between say the pakistani groups and the kashmiri groups have caused riots
at several times in the past. I lived through one set of riots thank you. It
is not something I would like to do again. I also have to say, that whilst I
lived there I was personally subject to several racist attacks at one time
being held at knifepoint. 

There is more the the situation of the muslim community than simply being
oppressed by the "white man".

> Politics and booze don't mix but when they hear my accent it 
> usually starts right after all the American football questions.

You go to the wrong pubs.

> I was actually responding to Gruss. But if you're telling me 
> everyone you speak to thinks that way then there's something 
> unique about your crowd. Honestly you can't say 100% of the 
> people you know think America is wrong to go to Iraq can you?

No I'm not, if you pay attention to all of my posts, even I believe we
should be in Iraq. I am also disgruntled about how our respective
administrations got us there.

> Where you interviewed by a group of physiologists? I never 
> understand how people know their IQ.

Entrance exams for Universities, psychometric tests, general IQ tests. I
have done many of these over the years and they are always high. Given my
age now the theoretical limit is much lower than 179. I guess I should be
re-assessed at some point and have it lowered. That said, it will still be
high for my age,

> > Oh yes, I am not clueless either.
> 
> I don't think I said that to you, might have been Gruss again :)

It was implied :)

Paul


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