well stated matt.

tw


On 12/14/05, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>     My opinion is that Saddam was a destabilizing force for the region - a
> region that will never, ever want to acheive peace with 'The Great Satan."
> The fact that he was not in alliance with factions like Al-Kaida means he
> was against them, and that the region would not totally unify under one
> Muslim sect - the Shiites.
>        Now that Saddam has been removed from power, factions in Iraq are
> aligning with factions in Iran.  This is creating a force of enemies against
> the US - a force that will not leave us alone, not allow any peace in Iraq
> until we leave and they exert total control, and they will attack the US
> when we do leave the area.
>     There is no democracy for Iraq.  Democracy is not something that the
> people of that region understand.  They are not fighting for it, they don't
> care about it.  All we are doing is trying to teach our principles to a
> people who will not understand them, and we will fail.  I believe it's a
> result of 'Cultural Relativism", as I learned in my ethics class.
>     I wish it was otherwise, but it's not.  Iraq is now a huge problem that
> cannot be fixed by us.  There will be no democracy, and until there is a
> very strong King or Shah or someone who has total control of the area, Iraq
> will stay a war zone.  It will join forces with Iran when the opportunity
> presents itself, and we will see a much bigger problem than we had before.
> Saddam was the lesser of many evils.
>
> And no, I don't know where the oil is either.  I think it's being hidden by
> Dick.
>
> - Matt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Iran
>
>
> > Let me get this straight. Saddam was a good thing for the Middle East
> > but democracy is not?
> > We removed that great leader to take his oil? Where is it?
> >
> >
> > On 12/14/05, Chesty Puller wrote:
> >>    I don't mind when thingsa are unilateral as slong as there is a good
> >> reason.  I didn't think there was good reason to go to war in Iraq, I
> >> thought that Saddam was actually a good thing to have in that part of the
> >> world because the Shiite Muslims hated him.  He could have been an ally
> >> in
> >> the same way that Saudi Arabia is an ally.  But the oil factions i n the
> >> Bush administration wanted that oil in a bad way.
> >>    However, if the US sees a defnite threat, and I beleive Iran is far
> >> more
> >> threat than Iraq ever was, then we should just kill 'em all, with or
> >> without
> >> the UN or consensus or whatever.  As long as there are good,
> >> point-at-them
> >> reasons, unlike the mythological WMDs.
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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