Thank you. - Matt
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Iran > well stated matt. > > tw > > > On 12/14/05, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My opinion is that Saddam was a destabilizing force for the region - >> a >> region that will never, ever want to acheive peace with 'The Great >> Satan." >> The fact that he was not in alliance with factions like Al-Kaida means he >> was against them, and that the region would not totally unify under one >> Muslim sect - the Shiites. >> Now that Saddam has been removed from power, factions in Iraq are >> aligning with factions in Iran. This is creating a force of enemies >> against >> the US - a force that will not leave us alone, not allow any peace in >> Iraq >> until we leave and they exert total control, and they will attack the US >> when we do leave the area. >> There is no democracy for Iraq. Democracy is not something that the >> people of that region understand. They are not fighting for it, they >> don't >> care about it. All we are doing is trying to teach our principles to a >> people who will not understand them, and we will fail. I believe it's a >> result of 'Cultural Relativism", as I learned in my ethics class. >> I wish it was otherwise, but it's not. Iraq is now a huge problem >> that >> cannot be fixed by us. There will be no democracy, and until there is a >> very strong King or Shah or someone who has total control of the area, >> Iraq >> will stay a war zone. It will join forces with Iran when the opportunity >> presents itself, and we will see a much bigger problem than we had >> before. >> Saddam was the lesser of many evils. >> >> And no, I don't know where the oil is either. I think it's being hidden >> by >> Dick. >> >> - Matt >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:39 PM >> Subject: Re: Iran >> >> >> > Let me get this straight. Saddam was a good thing for the Middle East >> > but democracy is not? >> > We removed that great leader to take his oil? Where is it? >> > >> > >> > On 12/14/05, Chesty Puller wrote: >> >> I don't mind when thingsa are unilateral as slong as there is a >> >> good >> >> reason. I didn't think there was good reason to go to war in Iraq, I >> >> thought that Saddam was actually a good thing to have in that part of >> >> the >> >> world because the Shiite Muslims hated him. He could have been an >> >> ally >> >> in >> >> the same way that Saudi Arabia is an ally. But the oil factions i n >> >> the >> >> Bush administration wanted that oil in a bad way. >> >> However, if the US sees a defnite threat, and I beleive Iran is far >> >> more >> >> threat than Iraq ever was, then we should just kill 'em all, with or >> >> without >> >> the UN or consensus or whatever. As long as there are good, >> >> point-at-them >> >> reasons, unlike the mythological WMDs. >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase Studio MX with Flash Pro from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=51 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:187926 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
