about 30,000 dead iraqis is a success story?

I'd hate to see what you think is a raging success - 6 million?

On 12/14/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know about that. It looks like Iraq is becoming a success
> story. The only problem seems to be nobody wants to support the Saddam
> trial because of the death penalty. It doesn't matter how many people
> he's murdered, the death sentence is too cruel.
> Otherwise this is a clip of what Rice said yesterday:
>
> Condoleezza Rice:
>
> ....Nevertheless, the enemies of Iraq are increasingly fewer and
> isolating themselves from the international community, because today,
> the world is more united than ever in support of a new Iraq. In just
> two days, when Iraqis make history by electing the most democratic
> leaders in the entire Middle East, they will do so with the moral and
> financial and diplomatic backing of an overwhelming majority of the
> world.
>
> This is remarkable when you consider how sharply divided the world was
> only three years ago. President Bush's vision of an Iraqi democracy,
> standing as a tribute to its citizens and serving as an inspiration to
> its neighbors, was neither grasped nor supported by many in the
> international community. Many believed that despotism was the
> permanent political condition of the Middle East. And they were
> prepared to countenance the false stability of undemocratic
> governments.
>
> But there were others who knew better. Nations as different as Ukraine
> and Australia, Great Britain and South Korea, Poland and Japan,
> Lithuania and El Salvador, nations that were united by the shared
> conviction that liberty is not a scarce possession to be selfishly
> horded. Rather, it is a universal right that all free peoples must
> defend.
>
> Today, countries that previously doubted the promise of democracy in
> Iraq are rallying to Iraq's side. The Iraqi people are seizing an
> unprecedented opportunity to live at last in peace and in freedom. And
> their democratic example is inspiring impatient patriots in places
> like Lebanon and Egypt and the Palestinian territories -- courageous
> men and women who are now finding ever more supporters in the
> international community to champion their aspirations and defend their
> dignity.
>
> The lesson, my friends, is clear: When America leads with principle in
> the world, freedom's cause grows stronger. We saw this when Ronald
> Reagan spurned friendly dictators and supported freedom's cause in
> Latin America. We saw this as well when Reagan called out the true
> character of the Soviet Union and liberated a democratic longing that
> ended the Cold War. And we are seeing this today, as the world awakens
> to the promise of a free Iraq.
>
>
>
> On 12/14/05, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > let me rephrase.
> > i dont refuse to believe iran is a threat.
> > but no other country would believe us
> > or england right now, due to the sham
> > we call the iraq war (That is now over, right?)
> >
> > hah. fuck him.
> >
> >
> > On 12/14/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > its simple. and unrefutable.
> > > >
> > > > tw
> > > >
> > >
> > > It's also stupid.
> > >
> > > "I refuse to believe Iran is a threat because......Bush lied about Iraq"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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