+1 - Matt Small
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gruss Gott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 12:06 PM Subject: Re: Iran >> Wayne wrote: >> but if my wife was in danger for example I would do >> whatever was needed to get her out of that danger - using the minimum >> force that I could. >> > > By your definition, the US is a pacifist in that it is using the > minimum force it sees as necessary to get out of danger. Also by your > definition you're a soldier, just not military, as you would fight to > protect your life or the life of your wife. > > The military exists to protect you and your wife - if you don't > respect them then you don't respect yourself. > > NOW. About praising those in the military. > > I think it's great that we have volunteers, but let's not fool > ourselves: how many actually joined out of some selfless principle to > protect others and are sticking with that? Very few. Maybe even > none. How about John Kerry? Wasn't he accused of joining and faking > injury so he could become President? > > Many pre-9.11 folks, if not all, joined for a bunch of reasons and > maybe one of them was to serve, but that's not the core. They joined > for a career, or to shoot stuff, or to learn discipline, or training, > or college, or any number of reasons. > > But they joined to work. No different than why you you're doing your job > now. > > And if you don't like that, think of Medical Students. How many join > to help people? Really? Because what percentage go into family > practice? Not many. > > I don't mean to be cynical, but let's be honest: we're all greedy and > we all have psychological problems. Our spouses and our careers are > chosen to fix those problems. That doesn't diminish the good that may > come of that selfish greed (which is what capitalism excels at), but > it's still based on greed. > > There is no such thing as true benevolence in the military or anywhere > else. In fact, one might argue that even benevolence is selfish as it > provides an emotional reward. > > Flame away :) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Get Instant Hacker Protection, Virus Detection, Antispam & Personal Firewall. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=62 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:188550 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
