> "And then there's the religious aspect: why do some Christians feel the > need to force their religion on others? Are they insecure about it?" > > The real problem with disallowing ID in schools is that evolution > contradicts creationism.
NO NO NO!!!! Evolution teaches what science can tell you about the natural world. Science CANNOT tell you about how life came into existence...so it doesn't even try. Creationism is a faith based concept that attempts to explain "creation". There is a complete disjoint there. > Although you place your trust in science, some > people place their trust in their religion, and you cannot ask that they > do > otherwise. If they are enrolled in a PUBLIC school system, and they are attending a public SCIENCE class, I can most absolutely expect, and demand, that they study only science in that class. > This has become a topic because the schools are not being > religion-neutral, they are teaching things which are specifically > anti-religious, which in itself is atheist, and therefore against the > Constiution. You are way out where the buses don't run here.....are you saying that teaching 100's of years of collective scientific knowledge...is against the Constitution? > Which is why the ID people, and yes, it's creationism at it's > root, albeit denomination-neutral (It could be Allah, God, Yahweh, Zeus, > Vishnu, Buddha, the spaghetti-eating monster from outer-space... take your > pick), are fighting for it - they don't want their religious beliefs > trampled on by science, or by the schools. When millions of Americans go to their respective places of worship on sunday, are they "trampling on science"?? Of course not. When millions of science students from dozens of different faiths gather in a science class to learn about what scientists have discovered in relation to the evolution of the species....are they trampling on religion? If you think evolution is trampling your religious beliefs, don't send your kid to a public school. It is THAT simple. Why must you try to insert your dogma into the classroom where thinking people don't want anything to do with it? > > To be fair to all parties, the issue should be withdrawn from public > schools. However, that's cheating the kids, which is why they've > presented > a religion-neutral form of creationism. I think Intelligent Design should be taught in public schools. I really do. But it should be in a comparative theology class, or something of similar ilk. > > And I don't get what they big fight is about on the anti-ID side. So your > kid is taught: "Evolution is proven by science. However, some people > believe that evolution is not true, that somebody must have created it. > Take > your pick." Take your pick? You seem to think there is something to pick from. There isn't. Science is what science is. Why even discuss that which is non science? What if every time you learned a new concept in math, you had to be told "Now children, there are some people who don't believe that 2+2 equals 4. Take your pick" Its absolutely RIDICULOUS. > > And then there's the (anti) religious aspect: why do some secularists feel > the need to force their faithless views on others? Are they insecure > about > them? > Science should not be taught, because it is faithless? You don't really believe that do you? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:189575 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
