How about the State pull down menu?  Alabama is first.  Should we change it
 
to California?  Whites over Blacks...

At 01:13 PM 1/8/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>The pull down menu issue is racist.  Why are we putting United States
>first, and not Afghanistan?  Once again, the United States, main composed
>of white people, trying to put down brown people...
>
>Does this work Mark? ;)
>
>At 03:04 PM 1/8/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >I truly love this list. There's no other place where you can go and see
> >a simple comment about a drop-down menu get turned into a heated debate
> >over the  differences between sarcasm and irony. We've got to fit racism
> >and politics in here somewhere.
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:31 PM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: Re: Countries
> >
> >
> >Given your past comments demonstrating how you feel about the U.S.'
> >attit
> >ude
> >about being the biggest and the best, I would say that sarcasm would be
> >t
> >he
> >easiest to convey, in this instance.  As for your suggestion that this
> >wa
> >s a
> >form of irony, well, here are the definitions of irony .. which one of
> >th
> >ese
> >definitions applies to your 'subtle irony'?
> >
> >i�ro�ny (r-n, r-)
> >n. pl. i�ro�nies
> >   1..
> >     1.. The use of words to express something different from and often
> >opposite to their literal meaning.
> >     2.. An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast
> >betwee
> >n
> >apparent and intended meaning.
> >     3.. A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or
> >rhetori
> >cal
> >effect. See Synonyms at wit1.
> >   2..
> >     1.. Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually
> >occu
> >rs:
> >"Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated"
> >(Richard Kain).
> >     2.. An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such
> >incongrui
> >ty.
> >See Usage Note at ironic.
> >   3.. Dramatic irony.
> >   4.. Socratic irony.
> >irony \I"ron*y\, a. [From Iron.] 1. Made or consisting of iron;
> >partaking
> >  of
> >iron; iron; as, irony chains; irony particles. [R.]  ((I don't think
> >this
> >applies))
> >
> >irony \I"ron*y\, n.[L. ironia, Gr. ? dissimulation, fr. ? a dissembler
> >in
> >speech, fr. ? to speak; perh. akin to E. word: cf. F. ironie.] 1.
> >Dissimulation; ignorance feigned for the purpose of confounding or
> >provok
> >ing
> >an antagonist.  2. A sort of humor, ridicule, or light sarcasm, which
> >ado
> >pts
> >a mode of speech the meaning of which is contrary to the literal sense
> >of
> >the words.
> >
> >irony n 1: witty language used to convey insults or scorn; "he used
> >sarca
> >sm
> >to upset his opponent"; "irony is wasted on the stupid" [syn: sarcasm,
> >satire, caustic remark] 2: incongruity between what might be expected
> >and
> >what actually occurs: "the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she
> >most
> >hated" 3: a trope that involves incongruity between what is expected and
> >what occurs.
> >
> >Call it sarcasm, or irony, or mince words however you like, the meaning
> >a
> >nd
> >intent of the statement was clear.
> >
> >Todd
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Benjamin Falloon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:35 PM
> >Subject: Re: Countries
> >
> >
> > > sorry howie... I'm afraid your wrong... this is a very BIG difference
> > > between sarcasm and subtle irony... You read my posts and read
> >sarcasm,
> >even
> > > when it wasn't there in the first place... I'd say of all of the
> >implie
> >d
> > > tones, sarcasm would be one of the most difficult to convey in writing
> >
> >as
> > > it's mostly audio/visual (ie. in person). So reading this inturn
> >re-enforces
> > > your notion that I am a "USA basher" as you say. I'm sorry, but your
> > > categorisation of me is pointless... have I ever categorized you?
> > >
> > > Benjamin
> >
> >
> >
>
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