As long as its not those Venusians. I *really* hate them

:-)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:23 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Countries


Why bother? Pretty soon the Martians will rule all and we won't have to
worry about such petty things.  They will take care of all of us!

Michael Corrigan
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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Jacob
  To: CF-Community
  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:14 PM
  Subject: RE: Countries


  How about the State pull down menu?  Alabama is first.  Should we
change it

  to California?  Whites over Blacks...

  At 01:13 PM 1/8/2002 -0800, you wrote:
  >The pull down menu issue is racist.  Why are we putting United States
  >first, and not Afghanistan?  Once again, the United States, main
composed
  >of white people, trying to put down brown people...
  >
  >Does this work Mark? ;)
  >
  >At 03:04 PM 1/8/2002 -0500, you wrote:
  > >I truly love this list. There's no other place where you can go and
see
  > >a simple comment about a drop-down menu get turned into a heated
debate
  > >over the  differences between sarcasm and irony. We've got to fit
racism
  > >and politics in here somewhere.
  > >
  > >Mark
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >-----Original Message-----
  > >From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  > >Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:31 PM
  > >To: CF-Community
  > >Subject: Re: Countries
  > >
  > >
  > >Given your past comments demonstrating how you feel about the U.S.'
  > >attit
  > >ude
  > >about being the biggest and the best, I would say that sarcasm
would be
  > >t
  > >he
  > >easiest to convey, in this instance.  As for your suggestion that
this
  > >wa
  > >s a
  > >form of irony, well, here are the definitions of irony .. which one
of
  > >th
  > >ese
  > >definitions applies to your 'subtle irony'?
  > >
  > >i�ro�ny (r-n, r-)
  > >n. pl. i�ro�nies
  > >   1..
  > >     1.. The use of words to express something different from and
often
  > >opposite to their literal meaning.
  > >     2.. An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast
  > >betwee
  > >n
  > >apparent and intended meaning.
  > >     3.. A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or
  > >rhetori
  > >cal
  > >effect. See Synonyms at wit1.
  > >   2..
  > >     1.. Incongruity between what might be expected and what
actually
  > >occu
  > >rs:
  > >"Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most
hated"
  > >(Richard Kain).
  > >     2.. An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such
  > >incongrui
  > >ty.
  > >See Usage Note at ironic.
  > >   3.. Dramatic irony.
  > >   4.. Socratic irony.
  > >irony \I"ron*y\, a. [From Iron.] 1. Made or consisting of iron;
  > >partaking
  > >  of
  > >iron; iron; as, irony chains; irony particles. [R.]  ((I don't
think
  > >this
  > >applies))
  > >
  > >irony \I"ron*y\, n.[L. ironia, Gr. ? dissimulation, fr. ? a
dissembler
  > >in
  > >speech, fr. ? to speak; perh. akin to E. word: cf. F. ironie.] 1.
  > >Dissimulation; ignorance feigned for the purpose of confounding or
  > >provok
  > >ing
  > >an antagonist.  2. A sort of humor, ridicule, or light sarcasm,
which
  > >ado
  > >pts
  > >a mode of speech the meaning of which is contrary to the literal
sense
  > >of
  > >the words.
  > >
  > >irony n 1: witty language used to convey insults or scorn; "he used
  > >sarca
  > >sm
  > >to upset his opponent"; "irony is wasted on the stupid" [syn:
sarcasm,
  > >satire, caustic remark] 2: incongruity between what might be
expected
  > >and
  > >what actually occurs: "the irony of Ireland's copying the nation
she
  > >most
  > >hated" 3: a trope that involves incongruity between what is
expected and
  > >what occurs.
  > >
  > >Call it sarcasm, or irony, or mince words however you like, the
meaning
  > >a
  > >nd
  > >intent of the statement was clear.
  > >
  > >Todd
  > >
  > >----- Original Message -----
  > >From: "Benjamin Falloon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > >Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:35 PM
  > >Subject: Re: Countries
  > >
  > >
  > > > sorry howie... I'm afraid your wrong... this is a very BIG
difference
  > > > between sarcasm and subtle irony... You read my posts and read
  > >sarcasm,
  > >even
  > > > when it wasn't there in the first place... I'd say of all of the
  > >implie
  > >d
  > > > tones, sarcasm would be one of the most difficult to convey in
writing
  > >
  > >as
  > > > it's mostly audio/visual (ie. in person). So reading this inturn
  > >re-enforces
  > > > your notion that I am a "USA basher" as you say. I'm sorry, but
your
  > > > categorisation of me is pointless... have I ever categorized
you?
  > > >
  > > > Benjamin
  > >
  > >
  > >
  >


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