I don't mind doing it here, we can take it off list if it pisses anyone off.
Also some other people might have suggestions. Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:58 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: FW: Show Promotions > > > Do you mind doing this in public, or do you want to go private? > > Qs: > Do you need to pay for the venue? How much? Not sure yet, if I can get the U-Turn, probably the door. > Do you need to pay for the bands? How much? Nope > Same venue each week, or do you plan to be floating between a few? Same would be preferred > How many hours do you see a show lasting? 4-5 bands, say half hour a piece with a half hour between. So 4-5 hours > What time do you see the show starting/stopping/pauses? 9-10 PM > Do the bands in question have record labels? Only a few > Do the venues in question have event coordinators/booking agents? If I go to DC 9 or the Velvet Lounge yes, if U-Turn then no. > If you are replacing an existing format, do you have the business > knowledge of the previous crew? Can you get it? Was it working, or is > it being stopped because it was failing? It's being stopped so the promoter (Johnny Bones, a local punk legend) can focus on his bands Iron Cross, and The Screws. He has been in the industry for years, so it would take a lot for me to catch up with him. However he was not promoting the shows very hard, no web site, no forums, no text messages to phones, very few fliers, no street teams, nothing. Just word of mouth. > If you need to raise money for each show, you are really going to need > to do a business plan (how much money, where does the money come from, > potential revenue sources, etc) Don't think that is going to be something I have to worry about. > Do you/can you get contacts with: > Local labels > Radio stations > Venues > The "cool" people, or what we used to call "the scene". Yeah, I have hella contacts in the local skin and punk scenes. > and one out of left field: > Have you read Malcom Gladwell's The Tipping Point? Nope, should I? > It seems to me your uphill battle is going to be to get people off > their comfortable backsides and into the club. The rest is easy. Yeah, well the shows were never very well advertised unless someone big was coming and everyone was talking about it. I think with the right web presence, street team, and maybe doing the phone text message thing, it could blow up. > So, what can you offer me that will get me into the club? > If is is late night (post midnight), mostly people with kids are > right out. > If it is evening/early night (ends before 23:00), the people need > something to do first (dinner, another party, hanging at another bar > first). And young people need somewhere to go afterwords. Is your > venue conducive to this? It's an all ages venue (The U-Turn) In DC. There are restuarants and bars galore. If we open at 9-10 we don't close until 3 so most people are only going home after it's all said and done. > What can you offer me that I can't get at home or second hand? Some > stupid ideas. > downloads of the top 3 songs from that night with your ticketstub? > pictures of you at the venue on the blog? > A jam session during the warmup before the show where all the bands > just jam? Where people they like from the audience can be brought in > to jam? (I saw this a couple of times at venues in Portland, and it > ROCKED. but that was because all the different bands were really > friends, and often had played together in previous bands. The same > thing in CT, but typically in basements not venues) No tickets, just pay at the door and get a mark, this is punk man :) Although I guess we could print something and get MP3s on the web site. I like that idea. > How can you add the things YOU bring to the table uniquely to make > this thing work? > Technology? Online tickets, event calendar, local board, podCasts, rss > feeds, etc? Military discipline? Parenting skills? > How can you leverage the people YOU know to make this thing a success? > How can you leverage the needs of OTHER people to help you along? The > need of labels to get bands exposure. The need of venues to get people > in the door (to sell beer, etc). The need of radio stations to stay > relevent. The need of bands to play for an audience. The need of the > audience to hear new stuff, to feel connected, to be cooler than the > next guy. The need for everyone to have something to talk about Monday > morning. I think my tech background is going to be a huge asset. Johnny didn't really have that. Plus he's an old school punk, I am a skin with a ton of friends that are in both the younger and older DC crowds. I'm associated with 121 United (local soccer crew) and they always roll deep as shit, have their own following, and their own bands. I know a lot of punks and skins that have been around here in various bands since the 80s, and I know all the 15-19 year old fresh cuts to. Radio wouldn't play anything that we would be playing, but it might be worth my checking into a co-host for an online radio station someplace. 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