I've met them.  I met them in my neighborhood, at the family
gatherings, at the Rape Crisis center where I volunteered for many
years, in the streets of Watts where I worked for several years with a
literacy program.

Yes, there are a lot of poor people out there who are 2nd, 3rd or even
4th generation welfare who have no idea how else to live.  They need
help.  They don't need handouts without accountability.  The blame is
on the government, not the  recipients.

I'm not talking about those who want help and if offered it will
expend the effort necessary, I'm talking about those who refuse to do
anything to help themselves or their children.

Any one of them who gets up in the morning (or more likely, the
afternoon, and doesn't do anything to support or care for their
children is opting out of the economy as anything other than a
consumer, whether their choice of phrase is "today, I will refuse to
participate in the economy" or "where is my crack pipe".

>01/28/06, dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you know -- I spent several years working on the wrong side of the tracks in 
> Washington DC, which is an inner city if there ever was one, and I don't 
> think I *ever* met anyone who got up in the morning and said "today, I will 
> refuse to participate in the economy!"
>
> ;) No offense,but what I see here is a bunch of people pointing fingers at 
> people they have not met. That said, I do think that welfare reform as 
> implemented under Clinton was somewhat positive, if not totally 
> thought-through. Most of what you guys are proposing as solutions -- a time 
> limit for example -- already exists.
>
> Dana

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