And you still don't know where people got the idea? A 'significan't number of muslims? How many muslims are there in the world? How many of htem are terrorists? I've never met a terrorist, and I know very many muslims as I've pointed out due to the demographics of my island.
Then you launch into another ad hominem attack, and the only way to bolster your argument is to argue something which I never said. I never said I defended Extremists, or terrorists. Yet your point of view is so very skewed that the only argument you have is to concoct such a statement. You cannot argue against anything I have actually said, so you make something up. What I said was that the cartoon quite clearly offends Muslims on the whole, and Muslims on the whole find it offensive. Therefore it should never have been published in the first instance, nor should the offense have been prolonged and there be further provocation by other newspapers also publishing the piece. Respect for religion should have won over some nebulous notion of 'Freedom of the Press'. Freedom of the Press carries with it certain responsibilities. The text of the piece itself was rife with inaccuracies and misrepresentations of Islam, and that needs to be discussed. I have stated more than once that there is no excuse for the violence, and it is absolutely horrific. You blatantly ignore the calls against the violence by muslim leaders, or perhaps it isn't reported in your own biased Media. But if you want an example, local muslim leaders have said the cartoon was offensive, should never have been published and said the violence is sad and strengthens a perverted view of Islam. That violence has to fit *someone's* agenda though. It does not fit the agenda of Muslims. Did you even bother to read the quotes I posted by Muslims living in Trinidad about the incident? No I'm sure you didn't. Yet your points are so weak, and perhaps you yourself have difficulty coming to terms with them, so you must brand everyone who does not agree with you a terrorist or extremist defender or sympathiser. I put to you again that these were the same attitudes and arguments used by Hitler's political party, and argued by his followers against the jews.They are the same arguments used by the colonists against the Native Americans, or the Caribbean Amerindians.They are the same arguments used by Whites against Blacks during Slavery. If you don't believe me, go do some research. The we are better than them, they are not worthy, they are greedy selfish money lovers destroying the world. Do some substitution and the attitiude of hatred and intolerance is all neatly packaged into the 'arguments' some on this list try to put forward. We really haven't moved on since then it seems. If you can't understand why SEVERAL members of this list would get the impression that myself, Jim, and Dana have gotten, then it is not either one of us that can't understand 'complex' issues. On 2/7/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Grussgott wrote: > > Funny how everyone that says they got the impression that certain > > people were saying that Muslims were inherently bad because of their > > religion,or equating Islam to fanaticism and terrorism can't 'grasp' > > the concept of the discussion. > > > > Here's the concept in a nutshell: > > (1.) There's a significant number of Muslims that use their religion > to justify violence and murder over trivial things like a book or a > cartoon. These same Muslims have no problem denigrating other > religions with the same types of things they take offense to. > > (2.) Their defenders, such as yourself, complain about cartoons that > offend fanatics, but have no complaints when those fanatics use > religion to justify violence and murder. > > Burning down an embassy because a newspaper printed a cartoon is the > height of lawlessness and if there are Muslims that disagree with it, > show me the protests. > > The lack of protests may not indicate an endorsement of the arson, but > it doesn't indicate opposition either. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:196067 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
