Again, this is you saying it, not me. I have neither called anyone a towelhead nor dehumanized anyone other than those who go out of their way to murder innocents. I see a bias here and I hate to say it but it's on your part. You only see things from a point of the government, bush or whoever else in America being wrong. You can not and have not looked at it from a point of someone other than us being wrong. You accept that the murders are bad but bring it back to blaming us for upsetting the Muslims. I see a bias and I really don't think you're willing to see past Iraq and Bush.
> You don't think it dehumanizes people to call them towelheads and say that > they don't think like us? Do you really know that you are being told the > truth? > > As for crusade, look at the perceptions - > http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006%5C02%5C12%5Cstory_12-2-2006_pg4_4 > > It didn't help of course that Lt General Boykin used the word in public > while in uniform. > > How can I ignore the war when I am considering how an illiterate Iranian > might consider the United States? It's very very relevant. And all of this > has everything to do with Bush from his point of view. > > Once again, I am merely pointing out that there is another point of view > here, so let's leave aside my alleged "bias" and "blame." These are not my > opinions. To answer your final question, though, perhaps they would still > kill each other if we left. But it doesn't sound as though you would > consider this a problem. And we would no longer stupidly be putting our > heads on the block for what does not concern us as a country. We won't > though, because there are profits to be made. > > Dana > > >>Waaaaait a minute here. You're the only person here who said anything >>about >>the third party being less than human. NO ONE has demonized anyone in the >>news report that was posted nor any of the others. I demonized the >>murderers >>as being murderers, not for their religion or anything else. Your reading >>a >>lot into the news that isn't there. >>No, someone doesn't get up in the morning and say he's going to blow up >>others. He's indoctrinated into it by his fellows. He's told of the >>rewards >>and good he's doing. He's told that death doesn't matter and given social >>support for his action. He's even given honor for his action. There's an >>entire culture that goes into someone blowing themselves up to kill >>others. >>That's the context. A culture of death. A death cult. >>When one of these death cultists kills innocents, we're not being lied to >>by >>our government. We're being told the truth. A truth we don't want to deal >>with so we fall back to other things. We say its all propaganda. We say >>its >>the government lying to us. We say "I don't believe a word I'm told >>anymore". >>I'm really at a loss as to where you get your ideas from. While the >>invasion >>of Iraq may have been on false pretenses (and there is still evidence of >>WMDs from Saddam's own people), it was never a war against Muslims. It was >>never painted as a war against Muslims. Muslims were never painted as >>subhuman. I don't know where your getting all this from, but I'm not >>seeing >>it. >>How about you ignore the war for a second and focus on actions. Hell, go >>before the was and focus on the same actions. This is all about actions. >>Stop letting a bias against Bush cloud your judgment and sight of what has >>and is happening. This has nothing to do with Bush. This has nothing to do >>with some cartoons. This has to do with evil people doing evil things and >>I >>use that word specifically. Ignoring the evil because of something someone >>else did that you don't agree with is insane. If Bush died tomorrow would >>these monsters still be killing innocents? Yes. If we left Iraq tomorrow >>would they still murder in the twisted name of a religion? Yes. We didn't >>cause them to kill, we don't cause them to kill so why are you blaming us >>for their actions? >> >>> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:197120 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
