I saw the part about get it from the synagogue. Bear with me, I am just seeing 
this. Do we know the suspects are muslims? After I asked about this I saw 
something about one of the people being from the ivory coast....but no other 
identification of the suspects. Also, do we know that this was a hate crime not 
a criminal one? If so why ask for money?

I am asking, so please don't assume I am condoning a thing. Obviously this is a 
horrible crime. I just haven't seen a lot about it so far. Do you have a link? 

Dana 

>I know all about it but didn't post it to the list so as to not be branded 
>an anti-Muslim bigot despite things like this. Basically, a Muslim gang in 
>France tried 4 times to kidnap Jews and on the 5th they succeeded. They then 
>called his family to extort money and used the specific phrase "so get it 
>from the synagogue". They then tortured the man to death.
>So lets look at the points that the liberal media will try to obscure just 
>as the French government tried to.
>1. A Jew was kidnapped for being a Jew. 4 other attempts to kidnap Jews 
>failed.
>2. The man was kidnapped because he was a Jew. Not because he was French. 
>Not because he was rich. Not because he had blond hair. Because of his 
>religion.
>3. The kidnappers were Muslims. Not 'French youth'. Not 'disenfranchised 
>youths'. Not 'immigrant youth'. Not whatever word France wants to use today 
>to hide the background of criminals and rioters. Muslims.
>4. The kidnappers tried to extort money from the family and community of 
>their victim, specifically targeting Jewish institutions as places the 
>family could get the money from. Not a bank, not the government, not a loan 
>office. A Jewish place of worship.
>5. They tortured and killed him. Not killed him. Not let him go. They went 
>out of their way to make his final moments and death as painful as possible. 
>And not over 1 day even. He was held for 25 days.
>
>But pointing out these facts will brand me a racist and bigot. France tried 
>to hide these facts from their own people and the world to try to 'keep 
>calm'. i.e. don't piss off the Muslim community or they'll riot again (and 
>again and again).
>
>But it's not just here. The 22 (not 6) ports that UAE want to control. Al 
>Qaeda saying they've already infiltrated UAE. Suicide attacks against oil 
>refineries in Saudi Arabia. Accusations by Muslims that Israel and America 
>were behind the attack on the al-Askariya mosque. The accusations that 
>Israel was behind the Danish cartoons. The accusations that Jews are behind 
>Tom and Jerry cartoons and are using them to influence world opinion. The 
>final admission that Lebanon has been allowing weapons shipments from Iran 
>through it's territory to Hezbollah, a known terrorist group. I can easily 
>go on and on and on but the bottom line is:
>1. Who cares
>2. If it's in American or English media, it's biased
>3. But we do it too
>
>So let the world go to hell. Let people be kidnapped, tortured and murdered 
>for their race or religion. As long as we don't say bad things about Muslims 
>or upset them. Yes we're at war and we've lost. Might as well convert now as 
>our freedoms are held hostage to another culture.
>
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