It's interesting that Democracy is now only being seen as good if it
produces the "right" result - Palestine being another example.

On 3/1/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Gel wrote:
> > A country which has had democratic elections, and a democratic
> > Referendum that was declared Fair by International Monitors is a
> > communist country?
> >
> > Could you explain?
> >
>
> In a previous thread I gave plenty of examples of how Chavez has used
> the military and intelligence services to intimidate and bully
> opposition and, of course, Castro is his model.
>
> What you don't seem to be able to come to grips with is that there's a
> rich history of dictators starting exactly as Chavez has - via
> controversial elections.  Then they attempt to hold on to power via
> constitution changes and thuggery, and then outright destruction of
> any type of democratic process.
>
> And then there's the take over of the oil company and shakey economic
> policies.  On both accounts you can make a small case for good and big
> case for bad.
>
> The reason it happens this way is because these types of people aren't
> evil - they become evil.  They rise to power in an attempt to do good
> by saying, "if I just had more power, then I could do more good."
>
> I think it was Malcolm X that said something like, "the ends justify
> the means, but if the means are nefarious then so shall be the ends."
>
> I've read enough history and enough of Chavez to be 90% sure he's one
> of these people.  I could be wrong, but I'm probably not.  Time will
> tell.
>
> 

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