I would be interested in reading information that supports the fact
that it's net negative.  I did a google and all I found was stuff
saying it's got a better net than Petroleum.

From: http://www.cleanairchoice.org/outdoor/E85background.asp
"The  US Department of Agriculture reports a net energy balance for
ethanol production of 1.67. In other words, for every one unit of
energy used to produce ethanol and its accompanying co-products, 1.67
units of energy results. However, the  US Department of Energy reports
that petroleum refining can actually have a negative energy balance.
For example, every unit of energy expended in gasoline production is
reported to result in only 0.79 units of energy in the form of
gasoline."

Also some good stuff at http://www.e85fuel.com, thought admittedly
that's an industry resource and is likely to see things through rose
colored glasses.

-Cameron

On 4/18/06, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> by alcohol you mean ethanol? cameron and i have been talking about this
> stuff. my only reservation is that i think the process of producing ethanol
> is still a net-negative energy process, meaning it burns more energy than it
> produces. still, it would greatly reduce our dependence on oil, and that is
> a very good thing....
>
> On 4/18/06, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > So, I just watched a show in Brazil and how they are moving from a
> > heavy dependency on foreign oil to an almost indepenence by switching
> > to alcohol for fuel.
> >
> > Over the last 5 years, they have gone from 90% dependence on foreign
> > oil for fuel to less than 10% this year.
> >
> > 5 years ago, they mandated all gas stations have available gasoline,
> > deisel and alcohol.
> >
> > Most cars sold today are mix-fuel cars (they can take pure alcohol,
> > gasoline or a mix of both).
> >
> > The price of alcohol has fallen to less than half that of gasoline in that
> > time.
> >
> > The production of alcohol is a much cleaner and cheaper process than
> > distilling oil, so there are more companies in the business, and
> > increasing rates of competition, helping to drive dow n the price.
> >
> > I am definitely going to do some more research into this.
> >
> > FWIW
> > Jerry
> >
> >
>
> 

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