pfft. This is what happens when they let b-school kids think they know 
something ;) 

Did I say unions were a good thing here now, today? I said that in the 19th 
century they were they people who brought us the weekend and abolished the 
company store. Neither of which you know about because you just drink the 
koolaid ;) The problem with unions in their current incarnation is that they 
are in the corrupt end-stage of their organizational life cycle. So are many 
American corporations, mind you. Neither fact precludes acknowledging that 
about 150 years ago the union or the corporation may have done something worth 
doing. 

as for poverty -- I'd think you were kidding if I hadn't had about a zillion 
conversations with you that started this way. I don't suppose you remember the 
very long thread about Isaac, the kid I tried give a book to once...as I recall 
you were saying well, his mother should not have had so many children or 
something. Like that was within his control. Next time you're in San Antonio 
get out of the gated complex ;)


>> Dana wrote:
>> please see the history of unionism in the 19th century,
>
>Please see a history of unionism in the 21st century.  Unions are
>dead.  Heard of the Northwest Airlines strike?  Their mechanics union
>is still on strike almost a year later and the airline is flying just
>fine.  Half of the workers crossed the line.  Does anybody care about
>the union strike?  Nope.  Why?  Because there are plenty of jobs.
>Unions are dead.
>
>To show me the Great Poverty you speak of you'd need to show that an
>average ready-to-work 18 year old just can't find a job like poor Tom
>Joad in the Grapes of Wrath.  Cause that was life in the 30s.
>
>Luckily for all of us, you can't.  Because anyone in this country
>willing to work can have a job.  It may not be where they want, and it
>may not be their dream job.  But if they're like Tom they'd have
>literally thousands of opportunities.  Hell, ole Tom was willing to
>travel all the way to Californee to look for the job.  Your average
>kid today probably doesn't even have to leave his town.
>
>But my point is that if we sit back while the rest of the world trains
>their workers to work in this global economy then, yeah, our workers
>will be out of jobs.
>
>The race to the bottom is protectionism.

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