On 8/16/06, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Citing a hollywood movie isn't enough to support your view that this > is a purely religious war and that these people will leave the middle > east and suddenly begin targeting Christians in general even if Israel > had never happened and there had been no interference by the West in > the Middle East.
I was citing it because it's the only place that I've seen recently that show the towers falling and the hell that people of all nations went through as they came down. I could have said, "remember what happened 5 years ago in September but it would not have had the same visual opportunity to impact. Now then to point out some other reasons, I'll cite some web resources. You've no doubt heard of Wahhabi Islam, the "terrorist branch of Islam." A little digging while I was working a reply out brought out the fact that not even all Wahhabist are anti-American. The real name of the group is the Salafi branch of Islam. A quick read at Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi revealed the following quote: Salafis tend to differentiate themselves not so much by matters of Islamic practice, such as prescriptions for prayer (salat) or Islamic dress (hijab), but by their attitude towards the state. .... * Some Salafis believe that violent jihad is permissible against foreign, non-Muslim, occupation, but not against governments that claim to be Islamic. Those governments are to be reformed, not violently overthrown. Civil war (fitna) is to be avoided. They also believe in driving out "fitnah", which Wikipedia says, "is often used to refer to civil war, disagreement and division within Islam and specifically alludes to a time involving trials of faith, similar to the Tribulation in Christian eschatology. The word also implies meanings including secession, upheaval and anarchy." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitna Wikipedia also includes the following two quotes from the Qur'an: (8:39) "So fight them until there is no more disbelief (fitnah) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)" (8:39) "And fight with them until there is no more persecution (fitnah) and religion should be only for Allah" One pont about Islamic law - we hear all the time about "fatwas" and "fiqhs" being issued by mullahs. Islamic counries are theocracies, they are governed by religous law with no distinction between secular and religous. I found this paragraph interesting "The Shari'ah, which is analogous to codified law in Western society, consists of the Qur'an, the Sunnah, and a constantly evolving collection of Fatwas, or rulings, that deal with every aspect of Islamic life from ideology to practical daily matters. Throughout Islamic history, Imams and Mullahs have issued Fatwas, which have the force of law among Muslims, similar to a ruling by a Western court. As in the West, these rulings can be confirmed or overturned by a higher authority, by issuing a Fiqh." Found on http://www.argee.net/DefenseWatch/Wahhabi%20Islam-the%20Real%20Enemy%20of%20the%20West.htm Therefore the Quar'an and the fatwas issued by the extremist mullahs are all good religous Islamic terrorists need to justify their actions. So far all I'm seeing is nothing but religous reasons why those extremists want everyone to either worship Allah or die. I'll end with a lovely quote I found on a site titled "The Wahhabi Fitnah" at http://village.flashnet.it/users/fn034463/fitnah.html Whomever contends with the Messenger after the right path was exposed to him and follows other than the way of the believers, Allah will leave him to whatever he followed and put him in Hell (Jahannam) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:213378 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
