On 10/12/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hat wrote:
> > So the US Constitution *does* have a process for the writ.  The
> > legislation passed simply dictates that it is only available to US
> > Citizens.
>
> Thus the evil part.  We are no longer a beacon of light but just
> another country who, during troubled times, crumbles our morals like
> an old piece of parchment.

If you want to classify the law just passed as "evil" that's up to you
- I have not tried to defend the legislation or it's intentions.  I am
simply sick and tired of people saying that this is removing habeus
corpus for US citizens.

It is not.

Now whether or not the US should extend constitutional freedoms,
rights and requirements to people that have been detained during a
military action in which they were firing upon our soldiers or
plotting to kill our civillians is another discussion entirely.  If
you want to work the "evil" concept back into this, let me give you
two scenarios:
1. A "militia man" is captured by the enemy and is sent to a dention
center.  In this detention center he is allowed to continue practicing
his religion, fed and clothed better than he has ever been in his life
and occasionally subjected to interrogations that cannot interfere
with his prayers or meals.
2. A relief worker is kidnapped in the middle of the night, shoved in
a closet and attempts are made to convert him to another religion.  He
refuses and after three days is beheaded.  His body is dragged through
the streets of the town that he was sent to provide aid for, ending up
being hung and burned.

Which of those two is more evil?

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