You see the glass as half empty while I see it as half full.
You use increased deaths as your measure and I use 300,000 Iraqi
soldiers and elections as mine.
You throw your hands up and say it's a done deal lets accept our loss
and leave, I say don't let the heroes die in vain. Move forward and
finish because the reward will be so enormous if we succeed.
The terrorists have to fail, we have no other option.

I believe Baker would kiss up to Syria and Iran while pissing on
Israel. My fear is if we don't finish this by 2008 we'll go back to
the policy of appeasing the terrorist states and praying they won't
bother us.
We're way past that stage.


On 10/24/06, Gruss Gott wrote:
> The last I heard the number of US dead was in the 80s, which is 80
> more than I think necessary at this point.
>
> If your point is that we should stay because we're being effective,
> tell me the metrics you're using to determine that, and what you think
> the strategy going forward should be.
>
> I'm open, I just haven't heard any good arguments for staying nor any
> strategy for turning around the current trend.

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