On 12/21/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sam wrote:
> > Or you could look at what happened in France after the Americans revolted
> >
> I don't know what you're referring too.

They revolted also; it's called the French Revolution.

> My point is that there is no
> American fight in Iraq any longer.  It's either:

> (1.) We keep everyone from attacking everyone else in the hopes that a
> political solution is western friendly (thus the 1,000,000+ troops).
> That's not going to happen unless the World steps up big time.

That would have the opposite effect. It's not the masses that need to
be stopped but the leaders.

> (2.) We support one side or the other (Sunnis or Shiites) or some side
> of a side.  There's no good option there to pick so this is not going
> to happen.

If democracy takes root and the people elect secular leaders, we might
have a chance.

> (3.) We leave and see what who wins.  This seems to be the only choice.

Then we will eventually have to convert or die. If we surrender to
terror now we can never win.

> Thus the reason the Pentagon opposes a surge - there's no there there.

The plan needed just isn't written down yet.

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