Shinseki was a political piece of shit.  He gutted our light and reaction 
forces, made everyone wear that fucking beret and shit on rangers, airborne 
and special forces.

Petreus on the other hand is a genius, the man has done his time in hell, 
and came out stronger and better for it.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Sorge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: 12% Support More Troops


> He is going against some, not all. Gen. Odinero and Gen. Petreus (sp) are
> behind this. Gen Petreus is the arriving ground commander and the former 
> the
> outgoing ground commander. Seems that they would have a good picture of 
> what
> is happening since they are "boots on the ground" as opposed to the JCS 
> who
> are sitting in the Pentagon. Also, the WP reports this:
>
> 'The Joint Chiefs came to accept Bush's wishes, especially after new 
> Defense
> Secretary Robert M. Gates traveled to Iraq last month with the Joint 
> Chiefs
> chairman, Gen. Peter Pace, said a U.S. official familiar with the trip.
> Gates met with Maliki, who laid out more details about the Iraqi plan for
> Baghdad. '
>
> "That gave them enough to define a mission and its objectives," the 
> official
> said. "They came back satisfied."
> If you all remember, Gen Shenseki, who was the CJCS back at the begining 
> of
> the war opposed Rummy the Dummy and said that he was not sending enough
> troops. It is just too bad that Rummy did not listen to him, perhaps they
> would still have a job (Rummy fired the General shortly after his 
> comments -
> wait, the General "retired"). But the fact is not ALL of the generals
> opppose the increase and it seems that the Generals riding desks at the
> Pentagon are warming up to the idea. But you all have to remember, the JCS
> really have no say in war matters. That is not their job so it does not
> really matter what they think. If they want a say in the matter, they need
> to get re-assigned to the theater and then they can talk. Mr. Gates pretty
> much brought Gen. Pace along as a courtesy really.
>
>
> 

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