What you are arguing is moral equivalency, is an intellectually bankrupt notion.
As for killing, killing can be either right or wrong and whether it is right or wrong can sometimes be hard to judge. Murder is always wrong. There are moral absolutes. Murder is always wrong. Lying is always wrong. Stealing is always wrong. There may be extenuating circumstances, but such circumstances do not right a wrong. And some times wrong conflict -- it is always wrong to hurt another person, and it is always wrong to lie. But what if the truth will cause unnecessary pain to another person? These are value judgments that only individuals can make. But one should never excuse lying or hurting another person. Right and wrong is not a matter of perception. It is an absolute truth of the universe. The country was not founded on unconventional thinking. It was founded on a couple of hundreds years of political thought about human freedom, also upon the classic examples of Greek and Roman civics and law. There was nothing alien about our constitution to the British, whom we defeated. Our argument with the British wasn't with their values, it was with their policies toward the colonies. Many of the Founders supported the revolution only reluctantly because they view Britain as their country. And you are saying something about freedom, because if you are a relativist, then the value of freedom is relative. Either freedom is right or it is wrong. H. -----Original Message----- From: chris.alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 2:01 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: jihad for kids .. wheeee no I'm suggesting exactly what I stated. Absolutes are absolutely wrong. case in point: Killing is wrong. Killing in self defense, is that wrong? most people would tend to say no, if the choice is kill or be killed, and that is the only way, then killing in self defense is not "wrong", which completely contradicts the first statement: 'killing is wrong'. Killing is killing no matter how pretty you try to paint it. "right" and "wrong" is all a matter of perception. believing that something is right or wrong does not make it so. I believe that the events that occurred on 9/11 and some of the events thereafter were "wrong" but that does not make it universally so. Who put you, or me for that matter in charge of dictating what is right or wrong? Freedom is not just about living the way you want to live, it is about being able to also acknowledge the way others choose to live whether you agree with it or not. Unconventional thought? perhaps, but this country's ideals were founded on what was considered to be unconventional / 'unpopular' thinking. in short, what is right for you, may not be right for others, I'm not saying that about freedom or any one thing in particular. I'm saying, in general. -chris.alvarado [application developer] 4|Guys Interactive, Inc. ------------------------------------ http://www.4guys.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lon Lentz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 3:24 PM Subject: RE: jihad for kids .. wheeee > Are you suggesting that "living free" is not right for everyone? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: chris.alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 4:01 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: jihad for kids .. wheeee > > > > > > right for who? > > > > Absolutes are absolutely wrong... > > > > "the right thing" is such a funny term. > > > > right for who? > > > > we can say "right for me" and that can be true. > > > > but right for one person / civilization may not be "right" for > another. > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
