I dont' care about whether a candidate comes to my state- I can read issues without a visit or a really misleading and mudslinging television commerical.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Corrigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 1:03 PM Subject: Re: Voting (Re: jihad for kids .. wheeee) > Then what would happen is that candidates would only campaign in states > that are heavily populated and concentrate on the urban areas because > that's where most people live. States without large cities or > populations would be essentially be forgotten and not represented. That > would exclude most states west of the Mississippi and east of the west > coast states (Cali, Ore., Wash, etc.). Candidates don't even go to > Hawaii or Alaska anymore because of cost and small electorates. I'm not > too comfortable with that idea. > > Michael Corrigan > Programmer > Endora Digital Solutions > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200 > Lombard, IL 60148 > 630-627-5055 ext.-136 > 630/627-5255 Fax > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Beth Fleischer > To: CF-Community > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 4:01 PM > Subject: Re: Voting (Re: jihad for kids .. wheeee) > > > H. > I hate the electoral college. It means that there is no point in my > voting > in a presidential election in alaska. I might as well flush my vote > down > the toilet. Its supposedly a throwback from a time where the "common > man" > wasnt' considered intelligent or informed enough to vote for himself. > This > concept offends me. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 7:56 AM > Subject: RE: Voting (Re: jihad for kids .. wheeee) > > > > Are we going to debate the Electoral College system now? > > > > I'm a strong believer in the EC. It allows less urban states to have > their > > voice be heard. > > > > And every vote does count because the EC votes are cast according to > how > > votes are cast in each state. > > > > BTW: Aren't you a candidate for president? And you don't vote for > > president? Ummm .... I may be changing my vote. > > > > H. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:33 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Voting (Re: jihad for kids .. wheeee) > > > > > > > Winning is the mandate to rule. In a representative government, > that's > > all > > > you need. > > > > > > Getting a majority of the votes (in a three-way election) is > irrelevant. > > > Getting a majority of all registered voters is even more > irrelevant. > > > > > > I don't really get you're point, however. What does this have to > do > with > > > democracies being careful? There is no democratic code that says > all > > people > > > must vote. In fact, not voting is a form of voting. Furthermore, > I > don't > > > want all people to vote. Too many people who are ill-informed vote > already > > > any way. Of course, that's their choice, but I don't believe > democracy > > > suffers when people choose not to vote. The nice thing about a > free > > society > > > is that you can choose not to participate in the civic process if > that's > > > what floats your boat. People should be free to choose that option > without > > > being made out to be cretins. > > > > I don't vote in presidential elections because I don't agree with > how they > > are run. > > > > The saying that "Every vote counts!" is a lie. > > > > T. > > > > > > > > H. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 2:25 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: jihad for kids .. wheeee > > > > > > > > > I see what you are saying but I do worry that there is a dangerous > > > undercurrent lurking in the background there. Like maybe we could > just > ask > > > them what they think about it? Otherwise it is simply a case of a > dominant > > > culture imposing it's values on everyone else. Yes, it might be > from the > > > best motivations, but I think you could see the arrogance there. > > > Furthermore, I think you are on very dangerous ground with your > assertion > > > that "A government that is formed from a mandate from the masses > (and > not > > > from some farcical aquatic ceremony) is the only way to go." > Again, > > imposing > > > a morality and world view on others. Who is to say that a > benevolent > > > dictatorship is not a better way to live? > > > > > > Also, I think we who live in 'democratic' countries should be very > > careful. > > > After all, is it not true that less than half the population of > the US > > voted > > > in the last election, and arguably less than half of those who did > > actually > > > voted for Bush? Hardly a mandate to rule? > > > > > > will > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Lon Lentz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: 15 February 2002 23:32 > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: jihad for kids .. wheeee > > > > > > > > > > > > I will never accept the premise that "correct" and "right" are > > > subjective. They are not. > > > > > > Killing is not necessarily wrong. Murder is wrong. Completely > > > different. If killing is "wrong", then why do we hire "cops", give > them > > > badges and guns, and allow them to "kill" in our name? Why do we > let the > > > state "kill" in our name? Why do we let the US military "kill" in > our > > > name? There is no subjectiveness here. There is only absolute. > > > > > > I am not in anyway trying to suggest that we shove our western > ideals > > > down their throats. A government that is formed from a mandate > from the > > > masses (and not from some farcical aquatic ceremony) is the only > way to > > > go. That is absolute. However they choose to do it. > > > > > > Proper human behavior is right and just. No matter where you > live. No > > > matter what religion you follow. No matter your ethnic background. > > > > > > Would you suggest that the female castrations that go on in > Africa, > > > could in some way, be "right" or "correct" for those people? I > don't > > > care what kind of society they have, that is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: chris.alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 5:01 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: jihad for kids .. wheeee > > > > > > > > > > > > no I'm suggesting exactly what I stated. > > > > > > > > Absolutes are absolutely wrong. > > > > > > > > case in point: > > > > > > > > Killing is wrong. > > > > > > > > Killing in self defense, is that wrong? > > > > > > > > most people would tend to say no, if the choice is kill or be > killed, > > > and > > > > that is the only way, then killing in self defense is not > "wrong", > > > which > > > > completely contradicts the first statement: 'killing is wrong'. > > > Killing is > > > > killing no matter how pretty you try to paint it. > > > > > > > > "right" and "wrong" is all a matter of perception. > > > > > > > > believing that something is right or wrong does not make it so. > > > > > > > > I believe that the events that occurred on 9/11 and some of the > events > > > > thereafter were "wrong" but that does not make it universally > so. > > > > > > > > Who put you, or me for that matter in charge of dictating what > is > > > right or > > > > wrong? > > > > > > > > Freedom is not just about living the way you want to live, it is > > > > about being > > > > able to also acknowledge the way others choose to live whether > you > > > agree > > > > with it or not. > > > > > > > > Unconventional thought? perhaps, but this country's ideals were > > > founded on > > > > what was considered to be unconventional / 'unpopular' thinking. > > > > > > > > in short, what is right for you, may not be right for others, > I'm > > > > not saying > > > > that about freedom or any one thing in particular. I'm saying, > in > > > general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
