l wasn't. I don't know how the other people's grades were though and
at least one of the other people who said something had gotten some
bad grades and for good reason imho. Which always makes things
messier. I dunno if she got as far as a formal complaint. My position
was that soliciting such writing and singling it out for praise,
especially combined with drooling over female student's discomfort,
looks a lot like sexual harassment and is pretty sick if you ask me.
Did I mention that he was really strict about attendance.;)
Or maybe it was hate speech, definitely a hostile environment.

I'm actually pretty big on the first amendment -- check the reporter
job -- but this was way beyond splatter punk even. Anyway. Saying
something transformed me from an A student to a miserable writing
failure. He said that the grade had nothing to do with that of course.
 But that was B.S. too, even on the face of it. If a student is doing
that badly in a class, they  are supposed to find out in time to bail.

I was told that mine was the eighth or ninth such complaint. Note
though, that this is the unfortunate exception, in spite of which I
still oppose regulating what is taught at colleges. Because it's a
slippery slope. I just think that safety is not the only boundary on
free speech, and regret not having had the funds to sue the sick
bastard

Never read the Naked Lunch btw, though I know it's famous. And
considered to be literature


On 2/28/07, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/28/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > well.... a little more than safety. The issue I had way back when was
> > with a creative writing teacher. We all had to give everyone else
> > copies of our work.
>
> How way back?  Were you a young child, or an "adult"?
>
> > The teacher complained that the nobody was writing "juicy" stuff. When
> > one of the other students started submitting pornography, that was
> > invariably what would be read out to the class, and the teacher would
> > stare at the women at the class while it was being read.
> >
> > I say pornography -- it was really hateful stuff. I didn't complain
> > until somebody got fucked to death with a table leg for having the
> > nerve to be menstruating when the protagonist wanted to rape her, but
> > at that point I figured that we had crossed some line between the
> > other student's right to write pornography and my right not to have to
> > listen to things like that.
>
> You should have been able to leave the class if things were getting
> too intense, without it effecting your grade.
>
> > The teacher got very bent and ranted a bit about the first amendment.
> > I then failed the class, even though all of my work had been returned
> > to me with "fantastic" and "excellent" written on it.
>
> I don't hold no truck with all good work but an F for personal reasons.
> That's BS.
>
> But there is work like Naked Lunch, which I think a lot of people
> would have trouble with, but doesn't make it any less interesting to
> study, etc..
>
> I'm surprised you were the only one upset- usually, if you can get
> one or two other students involved, change can happen.  It's a bit
> rougher when it's just one student every couple of semesters, or
> whathave you.
>
> Much as it sucks sometimes, there's power in numbers.
>
> 

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