whoa!  I actually understood this...  :)

On 3/20/07, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/20/07, Jim Davis wrote:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gruss G
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:44 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: New MacBook Pro 15!
> > >
> > > > Nick wrote:
> > > > Which you could do in virtually any OS.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Uh, maybe, but the other real options are Linux or Windows.  I have no
> > > idea about that crazy windows command line crap, but it's crazy.  I
> > > know enough to get my network config and that's about it.
> >
> > DOS command line is NOT Windows Shell.
> >
> > Windows Scripting host is an open architecture: Jscript and VBScript out
> > of
> > the box, other languages available.  Very flexible, very useful.
>
>
> Have you used applescript at all?  I'd be interested in what you think of
> the
> differences...  and if you think picking up "natural language" languages,
> like applescript or ruby is easier for the neophyte.  I don't know, I was
> raised
> on command prompts, batch files and shell scripts (& not much LISP ;).
>
> To be blunt, I think Apple is /better than ever/.  Seriously, this is a
> platform
> I've watched since it was around, and it's NEVER been this cool before,
> nor have you gotten as much bang for the buck before...  and a big part
> of the picture is that THEY'RE NOT MS!  Image, which we like to downplay.
> Who cares what "people think", right?
>
> I used to hate apple with a passion.  I'd get into sick debates, I mean, I
> was a PC nazi.  Not MS, mind, I was never a ms lackey--  I watched them
> eat alive too many promising things, or whatnot.  Sorta like Syler. ;-)
>
> Apple, I hated, because it was "closed architecture", meaning, if you
> wanted to do anything, you had to ask apple.
>
> Clones tho-- hell, whatever you could think of you could get (or build!).
> Many OS choices, even.
>
> Maybe it was being forced to write pascal on the mac as a form of
> punishment... (and the dude never wrote back! ;)
>
> Anyways, I thought Apple had killed itself, by being anal, and was like,
> "just desserts" (again), but then OS X came out, they started climbing
> (again), and after seeing what OS X was (the best front end to a flavor
> of BSD *I'd* ever seen), I had to start giving props.
>
> The hardware is the most open it's been, and it's about to get a hell
> of a lot "opener"--  I hear you can just drop a new processor into some
> of the intel-macs, something unheard of in my time.
>
> I wonder if the main thing stopping HW now is SW, i.e. Drivers, vs.
> actual HW incompatibilities.  Maybe it won't be long till you can
> put more varied cards in there and have 'em work (without some
> crazy driver hack job type deal.)
>
> Anyways, Apple seems to be on a pretty kick-ass path.  I would
> personally probably not use an Apple for a gaming platform, mostly
> because of shortage of titles.  America's Army plays fine, note. ;-)
>
> BSD is a hugely powerful OS, with great stuff.  The Apple UI kicks
> ass, with more options for customization than I can shake a stick
> at.
>
> But mostly, I just love me a system that comes with SSH.
>
> Does Vista come with SSH?  That would be so cool.
>
> I think that BSD is more configurable than MS is, so theoretically,
> you could be more productive, if you take the time to set things
> up how you want.  It is pretty cool how you can be like "Tell iTunes
> Open playlist & for each song play 30 seconds" with applescript.
>
> A lot of the proggies have tie-ins with AppleScript too, sorta APIs--
> are MS products doing that type of stuff too?  I would assume so.
>
> Still, I feel better about running OS X than Vista, spiritually.  Gates
> is doing a lot to counter the PURE EVIL his company perpetrated,
> with the charity stuff, but still...  ;-)
>
> I've seriously been thinking about a Mac for the home... they look
> pretty, the monitors are second to none, and they are pretty damn
> user friendly ( iLife, ho!  ;-)... I can feel the game comment, but I
> can't feel the multimedia comment.   I think they kick MS's ass in
> the multimedia department.  Haven't they always?  Wasn't that
> the one argument a PC head "always" lost?  ;-)
>
> Plus, Apple is 'bout the DRM, but my god, MS is 'bout it 'bout it!
>
> And I HATE DRM too, obviously, as it's an attempt to keep stuff
> "closed".  MS seems to have built it into the OS at a deep level?
> Not sure, just what I'm hearing.
>
> Anyways, sorry for the long one, but as a former Hater, I just
> wanted to chime in, and say I don't hate any platform anymore.
>
> And if I was MS, I'd phear Apple, big time.  I'd be scampering
> to a new model as fast as my overworked coders could scamp. :]
>
> Yup, I'm proud of 'em.  WOulda bought stock when the bubble
> burst, if I'd had the loot.  Knew they'd be back fast... *sigh* oh
> well.  If I'd really wanted to, I probably would've. Neh?
>
>
> 

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