Think about what you said.  You are saying that because Clinton DID 
something that was illegal, but nothing ever really happens about it 
then fine.  You excuse that.  But when you talk about Bush you're 
talking about 'if's' and 'possibly's' and 'potentials' for things.  Your 
whole statement is one big "IF."  You even start rambling about toxic 
waste.  

So, by your way of thinking, if the perception of wrongdoing is enough 
in your book for guilt, then Clinton is guilty of treason, rape, and 
murder among other things.  I would really like to know how you feel 
about the Chinese money that was funneled into Clinton's campaign.  I 
would like to hear your opinion about the correlation between the 
nuclear secrets that were 'lost' by us and the progress made by the 
Chinese regarding those same secrets.  But somehow, I doubt that I will.

Michael Corrigan
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Haggerty, Michael A. 
  To: CF-Community 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:41 AM
  Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style


  Here's the difference between the consequences of Clinton's misdeeds 
and
  Bush's (the 'How Big a Deal is It' argument): 

  1) Clinton, by lying under oath, committed an act that is not 
generally
  considered grounds for a formal charge of perjury or disbarment in 
most
  states or localities (this comes from my uncle, who is a state 
attorney and
  deals with these matters for the courts of Maryland). While it is true 
that,
  as president, he should be held to a higher standard than most 
Americans,
  his acts alone would not be considered grounds for anything more than
  disbarment in most places (and that would be a stretch). The lying 
before
  Congress thing might be another story. I'm not going to go into that,
  because I don't know enough about Federal law. Either way, the 
situation is
  smarmy but it does not inflict any actual harm on me, my wallet, or my 
time.


  2) Bush, if he did establish unfair, 'conglomerate-friendly' energy 
policies
  under the advice of the single largest contributor to his political 
career
  (Enron), could potentially be sticking it to me in my wallet. Gas,
  electricity, and other forms of energy cost enough as it is and I do 
not
  want to be stuck with higher prices because a someone at the top was 
too
  friendly to corporations. I realize that money is what makes the world 
go
  around, but I have to live in it and so do you. Also, I don't want 
toxic
  waste residue dripping down a mountain or seeping into the water table 
my
  kids drink from. And don't get me started on the victim's relief fund 
and
  the problems over the airline bailouts! 

  The faults of the two do not compare.

  Just my opinion.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Lon Lentz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:57 AM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style


    Bush lied? I don't think so. He never said anything in regards to 
that 
  that wasn't true. Was he talking about it? No. Besides, all of Bush's 
  problems were long before he became president. He has admitted to them 

  and has been clean of them for a long time. Clinton's disgusting 
  behavior continued on through the White House. I can imagine that 
there 
  has been a little financial revitalization going on on the streets 
there 
  around Clinton's new office.

    Do you believe in a human being's ability at redemption? The ability 

  to realize that what one is doing is wrong and that one can correct 
  those problems and become a better person? Clinton NEVER admitted that 

  anything he did was wrong. Nothing! Bush acknowledged that his PAST 
  behavior was wrong and that he has taken action to correct it.

    Also, did Papa Bush work to quash the DUI? No. Did Bush try to get 
out 
  of the ticket when he got pulled over? No. The cop who stopped him 
will 
  tell you that Bush fessed up to it right away. And was a gentleman in 
  every other sense of the word. He lost his license for several months 
  pursuant to the law.

    


  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 9:57 AM
  > To: CF-Community
  > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
  > 
  > 
  > So lets see, its not OK for a president to fool around a little in 
his
  > private life, but its is perfectly fine for one to lie about his 
drunk
  > driving record and cocaine abuse.
  > 
  > such hypocrisy.

  
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