And not so proud as to try and exploit the issue. 

larry

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:21 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
> 
> 
> Actually Beth, I think Michael's comment was about Paula 
> Jones, not Monica.
> 
> Paula was not proud to have been harrassed by then Gov 
> Clinton, she was
> quite hurt by it.  She never had a cum stain from him, let 
> alone keep one.
> 
> Russel
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BethF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:16 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
> >
> >
> > Actually, from my point of view, I think that was propaganda
> > because all the
> > evidence points to a consensual relationship.  She kept his 
> cum stains
> > because she was proud of having the relationship with him.
> >
> > --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop
> > Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike
> > Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy)
> > Anchorage, Alaska
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Corrigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
> >
> >
> > > Don't forget why he was being investigated.  A woman 
> accused him of
> > > sexual harassment.  The very nature of the alleged crime 
> was sexual in
> > > nature so the questions in the investigation had to 
> revolve around his
> > > sexual activity (duh).  The apologists for Clinton always 
> spin it to
> > > make it sound that he was being investigated for messing 
> around with
> > > Monica and that it was two consenting adults.  According 
> to Paula Jones,
> > > she did not consent when Clinton put the moves on her.  
> That's where it
> > > all began.  He lied in the beginning and when they conducted their
> > > investigation found discrepancies in his testimony.  Now 
> they had to go
> > > back a revisit the issue and figure out who's telling the 
> truth, and on
> > > and on it went.  It was not about sex, it was about a 
> crime that was
> > > allegedly committed by one person on another.  You may 
> not believe Paula
> > > Jones, but I doubt one person on this list would disagree 
> that it should
> > > not have been investigated.  The investigation regarding 
> that case kept
> > > ballooning because he kept lying and getting caught in 
> the process.
> > >
> > > BTW: Not directed at you Marcus. Your e-mail just 
> happened to be the one
> > > I responded to.  This was a general response to those who 
> maintain that
> > > it was sex between two consenting adults when it wasn't.
> > >
> > > Michael Corrigan
> > > Programmer
> > > Endora Digital Solutions
> > > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
> > > Lombard, IL 60148
> > > 630-627-5055 ext.-136
> > > 630/627-5255 Fax
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Marcus
> > >   To: CF-Community
> > >   Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:46 PM
> > >   Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - 
> Bush-style
> > >
> > >
> > >   > If its a law thats antiquated and not enforced, then 
> yes it does.
> > >   >  Have you
> > >   > seen that list of ridiculous laws that circulates the 
> internet?  If
> > > I got
> > >   > arrested for one of those laws then most certainly, I 
> would say I
> > > had been
> > >   > wronged.
> > >
> > >   Certainly... But those are laws like don't eat an ice 
> cream by the
> > > lake.
> > >   Don't wear shorts on Sundays. Laws which make little or 
> no sense at
> > > all, and
> > >   would fall apart in any court in the land (although why 
> we haven't
> > > gotten
> > >   them off the books is beyond me).
> > >
> > >   Mr. Clinton's sexual escapades, while by no means a 
> high crime, were
> > > in fact
> > >   illegal, but that's beside my point. If he had stated that his
> > > personal life
> > >   was his own, and he would only answer questions 
> pertaining to his job
> > > as
> > >   president, I would have still disliked him, but I would 
> have respected
> > > the
> > >   privacy of what he did and left it to his family and 
> him to sort out.
> > >
> > >   However, when he 'LIED' to investigators, and 'LIED' 
> under oath, he
> > > changed
> > >   everything! Like him, if I was caught in an adulterous 
> relationship,
> > > chances
> > >   are no criminal charges would be filed against me, and 
> the matter
> > > would be
> > >   between my wife and I. But if I lie under oath, and 
> they find out that
> > > I
> > >   did... I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that I go 
> behind bars...
> > >
> > >   I also feel that while we are all human, the president 
> needs to be
> > > held to a
> > >   higher standard.
> > >
> > >   Marcus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> 
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