I question her motivation too, but charges were filed and it had to be 
investigated.  I think that if he just told the truth from the 
beginning, that would have been the end of it.  He offered to settle for 
700K, but she wanted an apology.  Instead, he ended up settling for 850K 
and no apology, and this was long after the Monica scandal broke.  If he 
just would have paid the 700, said I'm sorry, his presidency would have 
been so very different.  For someone so politically astute as he is, his 
desire to never admit wrongdoing did him in this time.  He ended up 
having to admit to far worse things.  Sexual harassment cases are almost 
always he said she said, but you have to do some investigation, not 
necessarily to get to the truth, but to find out who's lying.  If you 
can figure out who's lying, then in a sense, you've found the truth.  He 
lied.

Michael Corrigan
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Larry Lyons 
  To: CF-Community 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:37 PM
  Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style


  And not so proud as to try and exploit the issue. 

  larry

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  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:21 PM
  > To: CF-Community
  > Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
  > 
  > 
  > Actually Beth, I think Michael's comment was about Paula 
  > Jones, not Monica.
  > 
  > Paula was not proud to have been harrassed by then Gov 
  > Clinton, she was
  > quite hurt by it.  She never had a cum stain from him, let 
  > alone keep one.
  > 
  > Russel
  > 
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: BethF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:16 PM
  > > To: CF-Community
  > > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
  > >
  > >
  > > Actually, from my point of view, I think that was propaganda
  > > because all the
  > > evidence points to a consensual relationship.  She kept his 
  > cum stains
  > > because she was proud of having the relationship with him.
  > >
  > > --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop
  > > Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike
  > > Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy)
  > > Anchorage, Alaska
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: "Michael Corrigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:07 AM
  > > Subject: Re: How to lie your way into the White House - Bush-style
  > >
  > >
  > > > Don't forget why he was being investigated.  A woman 
  > accused him of
  > > > sexual harassment.  The very nature of the alleged crime 
  > was sexual in
  > > > nature so the questions in the investigation had to 
  > revolve around his
  > > > sexual activity (duh).  The apologists for Clinton always 
  > spin it to
  > > > make it sound that he was being investigated for messing 
  > around with
  > > > Monica and that it was two consenting adults.  According 
  > to Paula Jones,
  > > > she did not consent when Clinton put the moves on her.  
  > That's where it
  > > > all began.  He lied in the beginning and when they conducted 
their
  > > > investigation found discrepancies in his testimony.  Now 
  > they had to go
  > > > back a revisit the issue and figure out who's telling the 
  > truth, and on
  > > > and on it went.  It was not about sex, it was about a 
  > crime that was
  > > > allegedly committed by one person on another.  You may 
  > not believe Paula
  > > > Jones, but I doubt one person on this list would disagree 
  > that it should
  > > > not have been investigated.  The investigation regarding 
  > that case kept
  > > > ballooning because he kept lying and getting caught in 
  > the process.
  > > >
  > > > BTW: Not directed at you Marcus. Your e-mail just 
  > happened to be the one
  > > > I responded to.  This was a general response to those who 
  > maintain that
  > > > it was sex between two consenting adults when it wasn't.
  > > >
  > > > Michael Corrigan
  > > > Programmer
  > > > Endora Digital Solutions
  > > > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
  > > > Lombard, IL 60148
  > > > 630-627-5055 ext.-136
  > > > 630/627-5255 Fax
  > > >   ----- Original Message -----
  > > >   From: Marcus
  > > >   To: CF-Community
  > > >   Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:46 PM
  > > >   Subject: RE: How to lie your way into the White House - 
  > Bush-style
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >   > If its a law thats antiquated and not enforced, then 
  > yes it does.
  > > >   >  Have you
  > > >   > seen that list of ridiculous laws that circulates the 
  > internet?  If
  > > > I got
  > > >   > arrested for one of those laws then most certainly, I 
  > would say I
  > > > had been
  > > >   > wronged.
  > > >
  > > >   Certainly... But those are laws like don't eat an ice 
  > cream by the
  > > > lake.
  > > >   Don't wear shorts on Sundays. Laws which make little or 
  > no sense at
  > > > all, and
  > > >   would fall apart in any court in the land (although why 
  > we haven't
  > > > gotten
  > > >   them off the books is beyond me).
  > > >
  > > >   Mr. Clinton's sexual escapades, while by no means a 
  > high crime, were
  > > > in fact
  > > >   illegal, but that's beside my point. If he had stated that his
  > > > personal life
  > > >   was his own, and he would only answer questions 
  > pertaining to his job
  > > > as
  > > >   president, I would have still disliked him, but I would 
  > have respected
  > > > the
  > > >   privacy of what he did and left it to his family and 
  > him to sort out.
  > > >
  > > >   However, when he 'LIED' to investigators, and 'LIED' 
  > under oath, he
  > > > changed
  > > >   everything! Like him, if I was caught in an adulterous 
  > relationship,
  > > > chances
  > > >   are no criminal charges would be filed against me, and 
  > the matter
  > > > would be
  > > >   between my wife and I. But if I lie under oath, and 
  > they find out that
  > > > I
  > > >   did... I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that I go 
  > behind bars...
  > > >
  > > >   I also feel that while we are all human, the president 
  > needs to be
  > > > held to a
  > > >   higher standard.
  > > >
  > > >   Marcus
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > 
  > 
  
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