Can't we get ethanol from other things too, sugar cane? and can't we
turn the left over corn product like the stalk into ethanol? I seem to
remember reading something on that..

On 3/28/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> By which I mean, of course, your gas tank.
>
> Ethanol is very interesting and, to me, the actual solution to
> overseas oil; at least in the short term.  If I had to vote on one
> technology, it'd be this one simple because most newer engines can
> burn it, the distribution network is already in place, and we can
> source it locally.  A hybrid dual fuel car would be pretty damn
> flexible and I don't see any reason why they can't be made today.
>
> The problem is that corn depends on farming which depends on lots of
> stuff including the weather.  That raises an interesting question:
> does global warming eliminate this option?  That would be ironic.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Corn: The inflation crop
> The U.S. is set to report a jump in acreage planted as farmers feed
> the ethanol machine. One byproduct: rising food prices.
> By Jeff Cox, CNNMoney.com contributing writer
> March 28 2007: 7:20 AM EDT
>
> NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- It's no secret that the rush to ethanol and
> other alternative fuels has made corn the rock star of the Farm Belt.
>
> That newfound prominence has big implications for the nation's
> economy, experts say. Soaring corn prices are pushing up the tab for
> everything from candy to corn flakes, moribund land values have jumped
> in many Midwestern farming communities and the crop has become the
> lynchpin for the budding $40 billion ethanol industry.
>
> With corn farmers now getting $4 a bushel for their crops - double the
> price just two years ago - corn's become the crop of choice for
> farmers. And with the government's release Friday of a key report
> likely to show a jump of 11 percent or more in the amount of acreage
> farmers plant with corn this year, the 7,000-year-old crop will remain
> front and center in the eyes of economists and millions of other
> Americans.
>
> "It really is a bit of uncharted territory," said Christopher Hurt, an
> economist at Purdue University, referring to the vast increase
> targeted for corn production. "We've never seen a year where we've
> needed to shift so many acres into corn because of a dramatically
> large increase in demand for the commodity."
>
> Corn is the main ingredient in U.S.-made ethanol, the biofuel the Bush
> administration hopes will start to wean the United States away from
> oil. President Bush has set to reduce gasoline consumption 20 percent
> the next 10 years.
>
> Last year some 2.1 billion bushels of corn produced ethanol at 106
> plants nationwide. That number is expected to jump to 3.5 billion
> bushels this year as dozens of new plants come on line or get
> expanded, according to the Renewable Fuels Association.
>
> As corn output jumps, farmland devoted to other crops will drop.
> Acreage devoted to cotton, for instance, is expected to show a 14
> percent decline from 2006, according to the National Cotton Council.
> Soybeans, wheat, barley, oatsand alfalfa also will be displaced.
>
> The corn phenomenon will be felt in the market in a variety of ways.
>
> The high demand for corn, which accounted for about 10 percent of the
> $305 billion farm industry last year, will push food bills up faster
> than the overall rate of inflation, economists say. That's because
> corn and corn-based sweeteners are used in so many foods and soft
> drinks.
>
> Meanwhile, farmers benefiting from higher prices for corn - and higher
> land values - could also get higher prices for other crops that corn
> has displaced.
>
> "I think the probability now is very large for 2007 and 2008 that
> price increases in the food and beverage sectors are going to outpace
> the general inflation rate," said Hurt, who predicted food prices will
> rise 5 to 7 percent in each of those years compared to the norm of
> about 3 percent.
>
> "Energy has been the bigger component of inflation these past two
> years, while food helped to moderate that. Now you have a scenario
> where food and beverage are going to be leading inflation."
>
> Most economists are predicting the U.S. will say farmers are planting
> some 88 million acres with corn this year, up from 78 million in 2006.
> The Department of Agriculture is due to release its annual crop survey
> on Friday. March is a pivotal month for the survey because it's when
> farmers announce their planting intentions. Corn prices are expected
> to stabilize around $4 a bushel, up 20 percent from last year and a
> 100 percent spike over 2005.
>
> But into each crop's life a little rain must fall, and too much
> precipitation could spoil corn's reign as king of the crops.
>
> A wet spring would delay corn planting. A shorter growing season would
> cut output and could cause nasty swings in prices. A spike in prices
> would hurt the ethanol industry, which is depending on stable costs.
>
> A study at Iowa State University several months ago pegged at $4.05 a
> bushel the maximum price that ethanol plants could pay and remain
> profitable. Any rise beyond that would greatly reduce the incentives
> to build new plants and make ethanol, sending the corn industry and
> the U.S. energy policy into a dual tailspin.
>
> Mark Schultz, an analyst at Northstar Commodity Investment Co. in
> Minneapolis, believes that excessive rainfall is the only thing that
> can slow down the corn market. "The demand continues to get stronger
> for ethanol and that's going to continue on. We don't see anything
> slowing that down at the present time," Schultz said.
>
> But he's also watching other effects of corn's growth, and notes that
> the increase in corn prices has meant less feed for livestock. Cattle
> weights have dropped 10 to 20 pounds during the past year, he said.
> Experts disagree on whether the falling cattle weights will lead to
> higher beef prices.
>
> William Plummer, a commodities trading adviser at Wextrust Capital
> based in Chicago, said he is bullish long-term on corn prices.
>
> "I don't think we can ramp up production of agricultural products fast
> enough to compensate for the growth of ethanol facilities in the
> U.S.," he said.
>
> "This price level that we're looking at right now is going to be on
> the low side or certainly the medium-low side of where we're going to
> be. We're not going to see corn under three bucks unless there's some
> sort of catastrophe."
>
> 

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