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> Subject: Re: Is "Microsoft" Dead?
> From: "Rick Root" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> On 4/8/07, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> I think we're still in the infant stages of "Web 2.0" apps... I
> wouldn't be surprised at all to see web-based versions of Office
> applications start to take hold in the next 5 years.  Maybe not in the
> business market, but who knows.

Exactly - I'm not saying that it won't happen; but I'm also not saying that it 
will either.

Right now I don't think that the value or functional propisitions are there.  
That will change (if we keep moving on this path) but we'll see how far they 
come.

No matter how it turns out we're definately living in interesting times.

> > Except for FireWire you've just described a PS3 perfectly.  ;^)
> 
> Granted, but price and availability is the issue there.  For something
> like this to work, it can't be that expensive.

How expensive is "expensive"?

The Wii is $250 - which is cheaper than WebTV was - and you get game.  ;^)

The PS3, granted, is defiantely pricey at $500, but again people are going to 
buy that for other reasons as well.

I think that game consoles are good benchmark: the costs there tell us what 
people are willing to spend for essentially non-essential devices 
(entertainment devices).  Granted they're still expensive (only a fool or a 
king would say that they're cheap), but their success shows that people are 
willing to spend that much - at least every once in a while.
 
> What I'd ultimately like to see is the ability to tack a keyboard and
> mouse onto my digital cable box... switch to channel 999 or whatever,
> and surf the web.

That might happen - but I doubt it will be what you want.  For me, at least, I 
want a "real" web experience.  I want full Flash, JavaScript (AJAX) and 
security.
In other words I'd be interested only in "high-end" browsing.  I want the kids 
to be able to play Flash games and have no interest in "low end" experiences. A 
lack of plug-ins (Flash, audio, video, etc) or plug-ins with so little memory 
that most sites won't load (as with the PSP where many Flash movies won't load) 
has been the norm.  Those compromises stem directly from the hardware.

Cable boxes have potential (MS is dumping millions into building that market... 
trying to "innovate" as Gruss would say ;^)  ) but right now are way too 
limited.  They've great at decoding encrypted video (there's a chip in there 
for that) but the general purpose OS side of things is woeful.  Sub 486 class 
processors, miniscule RAM and no local storage to speak of (although DVR boxes 
could probably use their hard disks).

Look at the interface provided by your cable box now - look at the speed of it, 
the complexity and the responsiveness: that's what these things are designed to 
handle.  They can handle more - but just not that much more.

> You mention that the game console is the likely candidate for what I'd
> like to see, but game consoles are expensive.  The digital cable box
> is nearly as likely, because it's essentially a computer anyway.
> Heck, my Scientific Atlanta HD-DVR cable box has USB ports and
> everything.

True - but that's a superficial similarity.  That box doesn't have a processor 
or memry capable of handling even simple web pages.

> I think the cable box is just as likely, but I'm not sure cable
> companies are that innovative.

More specifically Cable Companies are too cheap.  As they stand Cable Boxes 
(assuming HD and DVR) cost the companies hundreds of dollars each.  They pass 
that (huge) cost off to us but even then they don't see a profit on boxes until 
after several years of service.  Enhancing the box for full Web functionality 
would add significantly to the costs - and to the time-to-profit.

The costs go up even more for other devices - a high-end TIVO still costs in 
the $500 range.

I'm not saying that nobody will do it - but cable companies are notouriously 
anti-new technology.

That said even current boxes may be able to support a limited terminal server.  
With fiber-to-the-home it may make more sense to support something like that.  
Instead of your cable box runnng "Nick.com" your cable box would be connecting 
to a remote virtual machine and piping it's output to you.  Even a small server 
farm could support hundreds of virtual browsing sessions so the cost wouldn't 
be THAT bad.

That could definately be a way to support high-end browsing on low-end 
equipment.

And of course as things get cheaper cable boxes could definately get more 
complex and feature-rich.  One issue there however is that the future is 
pushing (via CableCard and broad industry standardization like IPTV) a 
cable-boxless future.  Instead you get an encryption card from your 
cable-company that plugs into your TV or your TIVO or whatever.

Sony's been dreaming about this world for a while: this is why they still keep 
talking about Cell Chips in TVs and Stereos and so forth.  In their view your 
TV should provide Web Browser, media extender functionality and entertainment 
hub capabilities.  I'm not sure if they'll ever get there but some of the new 
stuff (like the Bravia line of TVs) is interesting - hugely, vastly, amazingly 
expensive - but interesting.  ;^)

Jim Davis



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