Absolutely, but not one that the judiciary can easily rectify, it's really going to take attention from the legislature to make any difference here.
-- Timothy J. Heald | NIH-Contractor | iGate Enterprise Business Intelligence Branch (EBIB) Division of Enterprise and Custom Applications, CIT/NIH/DHHS Office: 301.594.5611 | Fax: 301.443.7010 | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 4:45 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Bush, the new Teflon Don! :) > > seriously, Tim, if you or I were being wiretapped -- would we > know? If I apply to work at Sandia Labs tomorrow (which I > wouldn't, but > suppose) and I just don't get the job, would I ever know that > it was because someone I have spoken to on the phone said hi > to an IRA member in a pub? > > (Note to Big Brother: This is speculation mind you, but I > understand it's hard to spend any time in Belfast at all > before you speak to a member of the IRA, whether you know it or not) > > I understand what standing is and legally you are absolutely right. > From the point of view of public policy, there's a real issue here. > > Dana > > On 7/6/07, Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't like using intelligence services against US > citizens. I think > > that the legislature needs to get it's act together once GW > is out and > > make sure they patch any holes in the laws about > wiretapping, however, > > if the parties involved cannot prove that they have been > impacted by > > the wire tapping program then they have no legal grounds to > bring a case. > > That's the law. > > > > Now we need to find some Americans that have proof that the wire > > tapping program was used against them to reinstate the case. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 2:55 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Bush, the new Teflon Don! :) > > > > > > NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! > > > > > > Freaking BS, man. Bull-shit. > > > > > > On 7/6/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0642400020070706 > > > > > > > > Court dismisses lawsuit on spying program > > > > > > > > "CINCINNATI (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court ruled on > > > Friday a lawsuit > > > > challenging the domestic spying program created by > > > President George W. > > > > Bush after the September 11 attacks must be dismissed, in a > > > decision > > > > based on narrow technical grounds. > > > > > > > > The appeals court panel ruled by a 2-1 vote that the groups and > > > > individuals who brought the lawsuit, led by the American Civil > > > > Liberties Union, did not have the legal right to bring the > > > challenge > > > > in the first place." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:237925 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
