I had a science teacher who explained that he didnt' believe in certainly
theories because they didnt' jibe with his religious beliefs.  Was a great
teacher, and I thought it was interesting a science teacher believed in
creationism to a certain extent.  However, this same religious man was fired
for sexual harassment of students a couple of years later.  I testified on
his behalf at the school board hearing even though I knew he behaved
somewhat inappropriately (he didnt' do anything terrible, just a little
inappropriate) I felt that he was such a good teacher that he should
continue to teach.

--Beth, Pseudo usenet cop
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: I'm speechless ...


> I have only had two teachers that I truly respected in my school daze.
One,
> of those was my 9th grade science teacher. I'm sure you will find this
> ironic, but he was a very devout Mormon, and took every opportunity to
tell
> us his beliefs (we were always curious about the polygamy thing ;-)) and
the
> morals that came with those beliefs. He was always walking a thin line
with
> the school, but he didn't seem to care. The thing is, he never _taught_ us
> his morals, he just told us his. I learned to respect him, and admire him
as
> a man because he didn't try to tell us what to do, he essentially taught
us
> morals by example. He was a very upstanding kind of guy...
>
> My point being that perhaps the solution to the religion in schools
argument
> is not to teach the actual beliefs, but have teachers that teach by
example.
> Kids dont need to have verses from the bible shoved down their throats, to
> learn morals, even morals founded in religion. They need to have the
> _reasons_ why these morals are good taught to them (not just because the
> Bible says so...). Let the kids figure if they want to follow the examples
> put forward by the teachers.
>
> Just some thoughts...
>
> jon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:15 AM
> Subject: RE: I'm speechless ...
>
>
> > Parents can only do so much. While I generally think parents can do more
> > than they do these days, it's also very hard to teach her children right
> > from wrong. I've been through it with my step-son, whom I raised for
about
> > half his life. Both my wife and I are very sure of our moral position
and
> > have tried our best to teach him right from wrong. But between what he
got
> > in school and what he got from the mass media, he displays no signs of
> > accepting any moral code. Not that he's a bad person or evil or does a
lot
> > of bad things, but the opinions he expresses or the positions he takes
> when
> > he's been caught, say, lying, are those of a situational ethicist. I
find
> it
> > very disturbing. My only hope is that as he gets older, as often happens
> > with teen-agers, our words and our lessons will start to make more
sense.
> >
> > H.
> >
>
> 
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