On 9/17/07, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> > Yes, it is silly. That's the point. Look at it all and tell me that it's
> not
> > silly.
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> How about I look at you and tell you its nuts? And you're wrong?


Go for it. Make the case that I'm nuts. Show how I'm nuts  in comparison to
others of the same situation. That's what I'm asking for here. If you take
this a step further you'll question why the UN does nothing against
terrorism. You'll question the goals of terrorists and how they are winning.
You'll question why there is such a focus and double standard relating to a
single country that blinds us all to so many other things.

But Jews don't have a lock on the market for being persecuted. Israel
> doesn't seem to be leading the fight for Kurds to have their own
> homeland, do they? Sure, there are people that don't like Jews. Just
> like there are plenty of people that don't like Muslims, that don't like
>   Christianity, that don't like Hindu's, etc. There have been
> millenniums of fighting, persecution, pogroms and genocide based on
> religion and ethnicity and Jews are by no means unique in being
> persecuted.

Ah, noticed the Kurds. Why should Israel be leading the fight for the Kurds?
Isn't that the job of the UN? Or other, larger countries (like most of the
world)? But that's besides the point of Israel's 'suspected' support of the
Kurds that's come up in the news every now and again. So what's next? Tibet?
Israel should be leading the fight for Tibet to be returned to its people?
Problem is, Israel wants Lebanon returned to its people rather than Syria or
Hizballah and see how much help they're getting?

So lets try to focus on having a good homeland for all people and trying
> to end all manner of ethnic and religious hatred instead of trying to
> pull a "more persecuted than thou" card, ok?

You've done exactly what I wanted with my "people hate Jews standing up"
comment. You looked past Israel and Judaism. You saw the Kurds. You saw
other religions. You'll argue with me and more things will come up. The
point of it all is that America and Israel are used as excuses for
terrorism, hatred, war, whatever but they are just that - excuses.

As for a homeland for all, where does it end? How many Arab countries are
there and how many Jewish ones? How many times does India have to be divided
up for another new Muslim country? Does every group in Europe deserve their
own sub-country? Should Denmark be divided? Where does it end and for that
matter, where does it start?


Judah
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